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That real "Maybe he roped" problem
« on: August 23, 2022, 12:34:52 AM »

About the "Maybe he roped" problem

(Mostly caused by the so-called "roping" (suicide) subcultural incelospherian phenomenon


  The life isn't easy and it's getting harder for the poorest people around the world in the recent years. Many people, especially when they lack something important (like love, what is the incels' case) are getting more desperate and in some cases more suicidal (deeply unhappy and/or depressed and likely to commit suicide). They need support, understanding, some kind of real help! But when instead of these (support, understanding and real help) the incels (and all the rest of the desperate people) receive only (or mostly) attacks, rudeness plus perpetual statements like "It's over.", "Never began.", "There is no any hope for the incels." with all those rope (roping) memes, then this is nothing but a reinforcement of the suicidism amongst the incels who participate in all those pessimistic (a.k.a. "blackpilled") communities. If we use the incelospherian slang -- the  "ropefuel" reinforces the suicides.
 Long time ago, when I was in the university, the rhetorics teacher decided to make an exercise (a rhetoric exercise which is a form of training used to prepare the philosophy students to practically apply rhetorical skills in public speaking, debate, persuasion, politics, philosophy and all other fields in which rhetoric can be useful) about the suicide. It was something like "Pro-suicide or anti-suicide" (in nowadays' terminology you can think of it as "pro-euthanasia arguments" VS "anti-euthanasia arguments"). The university students in my group had to form (choose) two groups -- the "pro-suicide group" or the "anti-suicide group". I decided that there should be a "neutral group" which will be "pro- or anti- it depends..." I'm telling you this just to know that I am objective and I don't think that the only right position is "anti-euthanasia" and "anti-suicide". So, I am not a part of the "the oppressive system in which suicidal people experience forms of injustice and violence" (See "Suicidism: A new theoretical framework to conceptualize suicide from an anti-oppressive perspective" by Alexandre Baril). I was, from the very beginning (1993/1994) when we discussed this problem in the university a person who defends the critical suicidology.
 But, as far as, most of the inceldom cases (and problems) are solable (able to be solved) I disagree with all those pessimistic, pro-suicide reinforcing thoughts and behavior blackpillismic incels (and self-proclaimed incels, fakecels, nearcels, noncels and others)! They just make incels, self-proclaimed incels, fakecels, nearcels and other failed in love (and relationships) people to become more suicidal than they will become usually and this is already a problem because it leads people with chances to believe that they're chanceless and then they make wrong life/death choices.
 Incels (and other similar people like nearcels, etc.) who are more positive, realistic (like learning more about the metapill theory and how to escape the inceldom) can't easily commit suicides.
 
And now, concretely about this "Maybe he roped" topic.
 "Maybe he roped." is a sort of standard response to an observation that some incel (or perceived as an incel) has been absent from the incelosphere (incels social groups, chat groups, forums, etc.) for a long time (or just when someone deemed to be on the inceldom spectrum has not given a sign of life online and offline for a long time).
 What's wrong with these responds (replies; comments)?
  • They reinforce the pessimistic and suicidal thinking. They imply that if a person is absent online he "maybe roped", the same as there are no other dozens of reasons like the person is busy with something else, tired of all that blackpillism (pessimism), decided to self-improve (maxxing) and hence staying away from all of these discouraging communities...
  • They don't even think of (or don't dare) to suppose that he ascended (escaped the inceldom; found a girlfriend, a lover, a wife...) In fact, in some cases they may be banned for this kind of statements and when themselves sometimes succeed to ascend (and want to keep their accounts active) they have to keep secret about it because ex-incels are unwelcome.
As an advice: when you're depressed don't read pessimistic blackpill materials, focus more on the realistic redpill and the scientific, objective metapill; give yourself more time and try more to maxx yourself; don't minn yourself; after some years the situation may be totally different and all of you to have more chances than now. Don't kill yourself rashly because you can't unkill (revive) yourself.
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"Roping"
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2022, 03:42:28 AM »

The term "roping"


I found the term roping which is simply the incelospherian term for suicide. It's sometimes referred to by incels as FOOS, an acronym of "Falling On One's Sword". Roping is especially prominent among the incels who are victims of the black pill theory which isn't the rightest (the red pill theory and especially the meta pill theory are better).
Any event that causes potential rope-related thoughts is called "ropefuel".
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Re: That real "Maybe he roped" problem
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2022, 10:54:16 PM »
These incels are weak.
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Re: That real "Maybe he roped" problem
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2024, 12:27:51 AM »
 Weak + lazy to try their best to make the things, at least, a bit better (step by step)...
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