When I was in Incels.is (and before I got banned because one of their moderator has no idea what is the definition of "incel") I wanted to help the incels over there as much as possible -- to prevent their suicidal thoughts, to give them more hopes and copes which are healthy, more lifefuel, etc. I think that most of them are teenagers with a very limited life experience. So I wanted to share with them my rejection experience (in this way they can learn how to avoid some scams, how to be ready for rejections, what to expect in the future and so on).
I tried to be a polite and nice person so I made a poll (and a topic) over there in which I said: (Experiment) "I got rejected more than 500 times in my life. How many of you would like to read about it?"
The poll results were: Share about these 500+ rejections one by one?
Yes, that's useful, I may learn a lot! Votes: 16 59.3%
No, what's the point? Votes: 4 14.8%
As you wish, I don't care. Votes: 3 11.1%
Just start it and if the brocels don't care, stop it later. Votes: 4 14.8%
(I cast 1 vote for the last option.)
So, most of them decided that it'll be useful and they may learn a lot.
Before I introduce my new e-book, let me share the details (opinions) that I've got in that conversation with some of the brocels.
Well, I started with
Hi, brocels! Because (maybe) I am the oldest here logically I got rejected more than 500 times so far. :feelshaha:
It's not something to be proud of (except "Wow, what a persistant oldcel!") :feelshaha::feelshaha:
So, because I don't want to bother you with stories of rejections from females (from Europe and Asia mostly + some from the US), at first, just to ask you:
If I start to write about them, one by one, is it going to be useful or interesting to you, or not?
HiddenUzer said that he likes to hear about other people's experience so he doesn't mind.
I answered that
I think I can make the threads about it shorter here and to share the longer stories in a link to another source. Like that the brocels who want to read more will read more; the others who prefer the short type stories will just read the short here and will not getting bored.
Thanks, HiddenUzer@HiddenUzer for the answer. I'll wait to read the opinion of others too and if 50%+ want it, I'll do it. (I really don't want to bother anybody here; only wish to help as much as I can because most of the incels are really good but unlucky guys.)
BlkPillPres said "No, don't care.
If anything I'd say you were "stupid" not "persistent".
Stopping at 50 would have made sense.
Stopping at 100 can be excused.
But continuing past that is no longer a feat of will or intelligence, it's just outright denial of reality, it's just coping. I can just imagine how much money you wasted buying clothes, styling yourself, using hair and skin care products, trying to max out your looks in various ways.
Honestly, if I had finally gotten laid after 499 attempts, I wouldn't even feel happy about it or proud. I would likely stop approaching and just start fucking whores, because who the fuck is going to do another 400+ approaches after the current bitch you have leaves you for an upgrade? (that's the most probable outcome for an incel).
The juice isn't worth the squeeze. The returns don't match the investment. It's just not worth the effort."
Then, because I saw he doesn't get it, I answered, the truth, that
Brocel, I never said I am a kissless or a virgin incel. :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha: I had some success before.
Then I got fat, older, etc. and already around 10 years I'm loveless lonely incel.
But recently I'm improving myself (gymmaxx, studymaxx, moneymaxx, etc.) so this is meaningful to persist.
Really sorry, if someone thinks that all the incels are virgins. IN THIS FORUM there are many incels who even order prostitutes (escrortcels)...
Incel = involuntarily celibate (but even most of the volcels in the monasteries and churches, before they go there have had sex or even love.)
So... I'm just not what you imagined (a kissles and a virgin incel). i'm just incel in the past around 10 years. That's it.
Meanwhile doomed 7 told me to post about them.
I answered with:
OK, I hope more people will vote for it and I'll write every day 2-3 stories.
Now I think that 2-3 per day is a bit more because I started to develop this new incels forum over here. But even 1 per day should be enough for the readers. I hope nothing bad is going to happen with me or with this forum so I will be able to finish this big e-book.
BoxCutter also said that tbh "I'd like to hear some".
turbosperg posted something interesting; it worth a special discussion because points to important inceldom problems but for now I'll just quote it here: "When you're ugly, your rejections are brutal -- looks of disgust, harsh words, jokes, bullying, etc.
You don't need 500 such experiences to conclude you're unwanted by foids.
The theory that "tHerE's SoMeOnE fOr EvErYoNe" doesn't hold water because mate-seeking behavior doesn't vary within a species.
In the wilderness, the animals that are fucking zebras are zebras. Is there a zebra that would rather fuck a donkey? Perhaps, but highly unlikely they'll pair up in the wild. Likewise, among foids, their mate-selection criteria is the same across the whole species -- looks, money, status.
Maybe a stacy will reject a non-Chad that would still have a chance with a becky. But if foids from all PSL ratings, all abdominal circumferences, all walks of life they all reject you, that's because you're a zebra waiting for a nice-looking donkey to fuck. Not happening."
NoTommERow asked do I feel bad "because you don't have a wife and kids(I assume you don't) ,aka the typical human life?What are your most important regrets in life?"
I think I didn't answer him there because soon the stupid ban came and I had no opportunity to preview all the comments and questions that I've got there. I can answer him here, maybe he'll read it some day, that my most important regrets are that I didn't start much earlier to self-improve (to -maxx: moneymaxx, studymaxx, gymmmax and, maybe, the right geomaxx...)
More of my answers in that poll thread about the "500 Rejections":
The idea is that a person is not just a donkey and he can ascend (up to 50%-60% of the people who're incels have chances after softmaxx like diet, gym, study, money, etc. and the worse cases - trucels - after surgery-maxx and geo-maxx).
I keep trying because now I'm better than before (lost weight, gain muscles, learned more about the people and the life, changed my character). If I was the same I could stop trying. If I became worse (for example fatter I should stop). The idea is that when you are improving yourself you have more chances, so keep trying.
Even with a wife I'd like to remain a child-free person. I have the idea that only super rich people should have kids. If you're poor and can't afford the kid's education, medical security, house, car, etc., why to born a pity kid?! I'm a responsible man. If I am not rich enough, never dream of kids no matter how much I (maybe) will fall in love in the future. DON'T make unhappy kids.
OK, thanks for the voting you all!
I will make it as a free e-book in that science-oriented forum. Here I will post the short stories like #1 rejection, #2 rejection in which to give you the essence of every rejection like "she said that if we date I should have a car, an apartment and own company, but I haven't because I am a poorcel so she said "OMG! If you're so poor why you don't get rich?! I don't date poor guys." and then if someone wants to read the details of the story, can continue to read in the free e-book.
I think this is the best way for everyone. I'll start it today, the staff there gave me permission to post e-book (but without concrete names or sexual details. :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:)
No worries, I am a polite man.
Broly also quoted BlkPillPres' "No, don't care." which means that he also doesn't care. (I just told him "OK.
the virgin shepherd shared a video with the comment "incels.is be like" which I didn't watch, so I had no comment about it.
BlkPillPres shared a video too (with the comment "Coping Incels - "I'm gonna get me a GF one day, BELIEVE IT!"")
I told him and people like him that
It's simple: if you remain fat, poor, non-muscular, dirty, etc. you better stop. If you're getting slimmer, earning a bit more money, getting muscles, improving your hygiene, clothes, character, etc. (you're being like from 2/10 going to be a 5/10) you already mog the dad bod Normans and you can compete with most of the Normans and some of the Chadlites.
So, who improves himself has the ability to try. Who doesn't, better not to try.
UniqueUzername supported the idea that the incels should give up after many tries with ":whitepill:One hundred percent true!!"
doomed 7 asked me to post physique.
My answers to those were as follows
It's not even 50% true because he assumed that I never succeed. I told you, that;
a) I'm not a virgin, nor kissless.
b) I'm getting better recently, so it makes sense to continue.
doomed 7@doomed 7 I had already some posts about it. Like this one: incels.is/threads/dont-kill-yourself-because-youre-getting-older.380222/
BarrelStuffer said that approaching is dumb and doesn’t work anymore unless you’re at least chadlite. He explained it like this: "Every foid is online now so why would she care about some guy approaching her irl when she’s getting attention from several better looking guys on apps and social media? Like would you really be bothering trying to meet girls irl or obsessing over the cute receptionist at the gym if you were getting messaged online from foids calling you handsome every day?
The only way to get laid irl anymore as a non chad is to get into an NT social circle and warm approach since then she actually knows you and you have some social proof."
I think there are some interesting points which worth to be discussed in this forum more. There I just comment, shortly, that
Yes, the Internet made the things difficult. But at least gave us the opportunity to improve ourselves more. If it was easy now would still be obese and maybe already ill. At least the efforts saved my health.
About my improvements (-maxxes):
Visual: because I REALLY GOT BETTER than BEFORE, it makes sense to keep believing I can do it:
More lifefuel from me: years ago:
Before: and now:
And it's only the visual improvement. My knowledge, my income and my character (wisdom) also improved.
No time to upload photos here. Later if there are more brocels and others participating in this forum, I'll be glad to show them.
Animecel2D said, I suppose ironically, "Oh yeah? What type of success did you have…. brocel? Do go into detail about it"
yez added "It has no point. We are incels."
doomed 7 commented something about the gym -- "bro why do you go to crossfit f*ggot gyms and wear tight clothes? reject these gay stuff mate"
I strongly disagree with that. Probably I have to answer more about it if I don't forget in the answers to some incels
. I know the brocel didn't mean to hurt me, just thinks it is right and helpful but he's not right.
Another comment of mine is
But most of the incels can ascend. There are so many ways to do so -- the easiest one is the go to some poor country where the locals like you more (geo-maxx). It's not 100% no chance.
There is even a theory (something like a definition) which states that the incels can ascend the truecels can't ascend. Well, I think so, most of the incels are very able to ascend.
Here was an attempt to explain them what is the real meaning of the word "incel":
Just remember that incel = involuntarily celibate. NOT every incel is virgin. Here some even share how many prostitutes they had sex with (escortcels).
I don't use prostitutes. But also I'm not a virgin or a kissless. Just already around 10 years I can't find a single person to like me (2 "landwhales" are an exception).
REMEMBER: the Donnelly study, defined incels as all adults who fail to find a sexual partner for six months or more (Source: incels.wiki/w/Main_Page)
UniqueUzername said that I am wasting your time on retard b!tches. And "Accept the reality and invest your time in doing something better."
kaang asked to tell them some success stories first.
The Grinch asked me why didn’t I stop trying after the first 100 rejections.
RuudVanNistelrooy comment "You seem like you're trolling, something off about your writing style. Since you already admit that you are no civ virgin i assume that you're a failed normie."
Not exactly. I gymmaxx but I also study science, languages... watch some movies, try more ways to earn money... read some e-books.
I lead a meaningful life.
"tell us some success stories first, brocel."
OK. My first kiss was with a virgin Turkish girl (when I was around 22 years old). She was my FIRST girlfriend, I was her number 3 or 4... She was 14 that time. We never had sex. We broke up because she tried to go to disco club without me to meet other guys and to flirt there. Her aunt helped me to realize the truth.
Later I had to report her to the police too because she tried to blackmail me.
"Why didn’t you stop trying after the first 100?"
because that time I met 2 honest girls who said: "You're ugly. That's why you can't. Lose weight! Build some muscles!"
And they helped me to improve myself to this level. Now at least 2 landwhales so far said they like me, but I can't with them... and now I can have some chats but they ghost me and never agree to date. Still not good enough for them.
"You seem like you're trolling"
Boy, I swear to my death mom's grave that I am a nearly 50 years old uncle (who manages to keep his bio age low with sport and diets) , SO for a grown man like me trolling young boys like you is a SHAME.
I want only to help you and to learn something from you. I like to chat with young people like you who have the same problem as me. And also I do practice my English because it's my main income (teaching English) as a poor man without own company.
UniqueUzername wanted to talk to me. I answered him "This forum has private messages. Just send me one or if you can't I will send you, bro." He said that he tried - "I tried to pm you but it says-
Yikes! Something went wrong. Lets unpack this.
You cannot start a private conversation with Poorbaldshortcel.""
I told him "I also got this error. Maybe the forum is too busy. I'll try to reach you, brocel."
Then he: "Now got this....:feelsbadman:
The place where you can chat about everything.
You don't have the permission to join this room.""
And I suggested him to come to this Omnilogy forum (which still was without incel board. it was incelless
Well, then go to Omnilogy forum register there and search for me (my nickname there is "Incel"). I'm there now to write my free e-book about the 500 rejections.
And, at the end, I thanked them (
THANK YOU ALL for the votes and opinions! I started it:...
There were some aggressive comments which I'm going to answer in the right place mentioned above. You know already where do I answer the bad incels (some of the incels are bad, it's a fact). So, don't want to waste my time and your time in this more important thread about the incel e-book "500 Rejections".
IncelHeII said "nah bruh just sum it up, reject you for height or looks? Or maybe you didn't have confidence and they did not like the "way you carried yourself"?"
And I sum it up like this:
"reject you for height or looks? "
- money (why no money? :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha: )
- nationality (why no from USA? I LIKE ONLY AMERICANS! :feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman: )
- personality ("Too honest, can't lie.")
- race ("I date only Chinese and Koreans. No Westerners!")
- religion (HOW YOU DARE TO BELIEVE IN SCIENCE? NOT IN GOD! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! You godless piece of scientist :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:)
- family story (you're motherless, huh? I need someone with a good family.)
- and some more (like: ALL the westerners are with AIDS! I AM AFRAID!!! :feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman:)
Some of the rest (mine) (One of them was the answer to TheGambler2, who said "absolute state of .is :feelsseriously::society:" (he means that most of the incels there are not necessarily kissless, virgins, kissless virgins, etc.) AND "compete for what?? blown out 1000 body count 30+ roastoids? :feelsgah::society:"):
OK, for those who are low IQcels and can't get the definition of INCEL, I created a special topic with simple examples: ...
"compete for what?"
This is a good question (philosophical). I answer: Free will. Everyone decided does it make sense to compete or not. Sometimes maybe it is not worthy. Then, just geomaxx to a place with a bit better females.
That was how it started. And here is a link to the 500 Rejections
. The first ever incel oriented free e-book about the rejections.