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@Enlighten3d, this is his photo: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/972439464699916328/1041924303865778186/20221115085539.jpg

Looks pretty good. Just needs to add some muscle mass and will be 100% sexy! :P

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 I am from Europe, never been to USA, living in China since 2004. I am a socialist/communist and thus I am pro-Communist and pro-Socialist parties (all of them, as far as they are real, not fake) but, of course, when there is something like emperorisation (emperorization) (in Chinese, I suppose it will be "皇帝化") than I also can't continue to be pro-something which already isn't what it was meant to be.
 That's why from a hard-liner communist and socialist I became something like dissident (but still with communist and socialist orientation) writing this protest during the madness called "0 COVID": "Zero COVID" -- policy of the impossible against which I protest.
 
 The reason I dream of socialist/communist society is that there people can't be poor and loveless. Everyone, even the poor ones will have at least some food, some female... all the needs will be satisfied and at the same time people will be cultured, not selfish and cooperative.
 This is the ideal and it's normal to be like this, because "There is enough for everybody's need but not for anybody's greed."

 Well, if it's not possible, then, at least let people to have a NORMAL capitalism where at least the hard-working and the creative ones will do better and will provide some working places for the rest.
 
Okay, enough politology.  :)

Let's see the real inceldom problems here...
 Most of the girls do not think too much about your character, values, etc., if you're handsome and rich. This is the truth -- house, car, high income (房子,车,工资高) + handsome, tall (帅,高)... these are usually the values of the most females in China (and also abroad -- they don't value so much poor, ugly, short men). Most of the people (including the female people) around the world aren't educated or smart. So, only a minority will think of your internal world (like values, political, art, philosophical and other points of view).
 If you're handsome and rich, usually you're not an incel. But if you're not:

 then you should improve yourself (maxxing).

 Be a better version of yourself: for example, now you're not strong enough, so you can start doing more sports. Your English is not perfect, so you can add more words per day (if you learn 2 new words everyday successfully, you can try to learn 3.) In this way, you'll be more attractive.
 But, you should remember, according to what I read online (as I said I am from Europe and lived only in China recently), the Asian women in the USA usually do prefer the Caucasian males (many Asian males living in the US complain that the Asian females don't like them often), so for you the chance to ascend in the US will be less than the chance you have in China (I am not saying here is easy but what I read is that the Asians and even the hapas (half-Asian) males there are very frustrated). That psycho -- Elliot Roger (the mass killer) also was a hapa (White father, Chinese Malaysian mother) and even rich he couldn't find a girl (but he didn't gymmaxx; I think if he added some good amount of muscle mass maybe there will be at least one girl for him).

Yes, you're smart because most of the people don't go to private universities, don't understand programming and psychometrics (they even don't know what's this "psychometrics"; probably they think it's something like "psychokinesis"  ;D ) and their English level isn't that high as yours.
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 He really looks better than 50% of the Chinese males in China (according to my nearly 19 years long experience in China). I don't think he's having some looks problems (the only thing that he may add is some gym activity, the so-called gym-maxx and he'll be a Chang-tier). Also, being a student in a top private university is showing a relatively higher status. And he's more educated than many of the people around. And he has high goals... so, except some sort of mentalcel inceldom (can't find a girlfriend because too shy or because of other psychological problems mentioned above) there is no problem for him.
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I saw your photo. I think you're good-looking. No something wrong on your face (like bald, acne, scars, etc.)
You are not a fat guy too.
You are young.

So, I think at least 6/10 for the looks.

And you're a good student. You use words that I don't understand sometimes. High IQ.

All I can think is: hit the gym, finish well your education and try to minimize the psychological problems. Then you can't be incel anymore.

I didn't get 1 thing. How you are having great dreams and at the same time you're depressed? If you soon may be a doctor of psychometrics then you should be not depressed because you have a great goal to achieve.
Inceldom sucks...

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Depression can go away.
Just look for the things in life that make you happy.
Over it.

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I didn't get 1 thing. How you are having great dreams and at the same time you're depressed? If you soon may be a doctor of psychometrics then you should be not depressed because you have a great goal to achieve.

I understand him in this manner, sometimes it's just like you understand more and feel different from others, often you can also be rejected for controversial views etc.

About look - lol you actually look pretty good, just be more patient and you'll find someone. and remember what I said before, you need to talk to others (but don't say everything too fast, bc you will deplete all safe, meaningless topics before you can go to more personal)

Btw what a coincidence that many of us are socialists/communists xD

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I saw your photo. I think you're good-looking. No something wrong on your face (like bald, acne, scars, etc.)
You are not a fat guy too.
You are young.

So, I think at least 6/10 for the looks.

And you're a good student. You use words that I don't understand sometimes. High IQ.

All I can think is: hit the gym, finish well your education and try to minimize the psychological problems. Then you can't be incel anymore.

I didn't get 1 thing. How you are having great dreams and at the same time you're depressed? If you soon may be a doctor of psychometrics then you should be not depressed because you have a great goal to achieve.
Well now my daytime is 90% bitter and 10% sweet so when I am in 'sweet time', I am ambitious and when I am in 'bitter time' I am depressed. But generally speaking I am depressed.

For vocabulary, I just don't think you are a native speaker because I did not use any very rarely used words. I learned very few rare words.

Also I took old sat/gre/gmat, and old LSAT before for fun. I don't know if you know about them because old sat and gre do not equal to new sat/gre, since the former are very unsusceptible to 'practice effects', namely they can be used to estimate how talent you are.

For old gmat and old LSAT I don't know, but old GMAT has very similar cognitive tasks to those of old sat/gre. Old LSAT imo is also a good indication of your language ability but ofc a way better indication of your 'verbal intelligence'.

I got 35 or so percentiles on old sat and gre verbal sections and analytical sections, and got 12.8 percentiles on old LSAT, but higher on old gmat. So this can outline how good I am at English well.
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I didn't get 1 thing. How you are having great dreams and at the same time you're depressed? If you soon may be a doctor of psychometrics then you should be not depressed because you have a great goal to achieve.

I understand him in this manner, sometimes it's just like you understand more and feel different from others, often you can also be rejected for controversial views etc.

About look - lol you actually look pretty good, just be more patient and you'll find someone. and remember what I said before, you need to talk to others (but don't say everything too fast, bc you will deplete all safe, meaningless topics before you can go to more personal)

Btw what a coincidence that many of us are socialists/communists xD
Thx for you empathy! I feel different but I don't feel inferior thereof. I feel inferior because of inferior complexities, because I have many disadvantages and I am so-called 'garbage' in the world.
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Depression can go away.
Just look for the things in life that make you happy.
Huhh... yeah I know, but, the things that make me happy are not unachievable and unachieved, and the things that can't make me happy are achieved intrinsically.
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I am from Europe, never been to USA, living in China since 2004. I am a socialist/communist and thus I am pro-Communist and pro-Socialist parties (all of them, as far as they are real, not fake) but, of course, when there is something like emperorisation (emperorization) (in Chinese, I suppose it will be "皇帝化") than I also can't continue to be pro-something which already isn't what it was meant to be.
 That's why from a hard-liner communist and socialist I became something like dissident (but still with communist and socialist orientation) writing this protest during the madness called "0 COVID": "Zero COVID" -- policy of the impossible against which I protest.
 
 The reason I dream of socialist/communist society is that there people can't be poor and loveless. Everyone, even the poor ones will have at least some food, some female... all the needs will be satisfied and at the same time people will be cultured, not selfish and cooperative.
 This is the ideal and it's normal to be like this, because "There is enough for everybody's need but not for anybody's greed."

 Well, if it's not possible, then, at least let people to have a NORMAL capitalism where at least the hard-working and the creative ones will do better and will provide some working places for the rest.
 
Okay, enough politology.  :)

Let's see the real inceldom problems here...
 Most of the girls do not think too much about your character, values, etc., if you're handsome and rich. This is the truth -- house, car, high income (房子,车,工资高) + handsome, tall (帅,高)... these are usually the values of the most females in China (and also abroad -- they don't value so much poor, ugly, short men). Most of the people (including the female people) around the world aren't educated or smart. So, only a minority will think of your internal world (like values, political, art, philosophical and other points of view).
 If you're handsome and rich, usually you're not an incel. But if you're not:

 then you should improve yourself (maxxing).

 Be a better version of yourself: for example, now you're not strong enough, so you can start doing more sports. Your English is not perfect, so you can add more words per day (if you learn 2 new words everyday successfully, you can try to learn 3.) In this way, you'll be more attractive.
 But, you should remember, according to what I read online (as I said I am from Europe and lived only in China recently), the Asian women in the USA usually do prefer the Caucasian males (many Asian males living in the US complain that the Asian females don't like them often), so for you the chance to ascend in the US will be less than the chance you have in China (I am not saying here is easy but what I read is that the Asians and even the hapas (half-Asian) males there are very frustrated). That psycho -- Elliot Roger (the mass killer) also was a hapa (White father, Chinese Malaysian mother) and even rich he couldn't find a girl (but he didn't gymmaxx; I think if he added some good amount of muscle mass maybe there will be at least one girl for him).

Yes, you're smart because most of the people don't go to private universities, don't understand programming and psychometrics (they even don't know what's this "psychometrics"; probably they think it's something like "psychokinesis"  ;D ) and their English level isn't that high as yours.
My gaokao score is only 55 percentiles, and so is my zhongkao score. But one of my classmate's father told me my zhongkao score coulda guaranteed into one of the best high schools over the whole district and he was wondering why I chose my shitty high school.
For Gaokao score, well imo it boomed so badly, particularly on my English because my English never went down one of the top 10+ in my high school but I only got 86/150 on it on gaokao.
But a student told me that was not a bad score at all and if I chose Summer Gaokao I could make it into a '一本学校', namely 'key university' in Shanghai. I did not realize I was that good until he told me that lol.
PS:There are two gaokaos in some cities, one of the which is held in the spring and the other is held in the summer.
The spring one can only permit you into the normal universities in Shanghai and the universities in other regions are not permitted.
The summer one can only permit you into all of the universities in China.
But the spring one only tests your 'Chinese, English and Math'.
The summer one tests all of your subjects.
And that student told me I shouda chosen the summer one to get myself permitted into a key uni.
For more details, my high school is the worst or one of the worst 2 schools in Shanghai.
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Btw what a coincidence that many of us are socialists/communists xD

It's because we lived before in socialist countries which became capitalist ones and we may compare the things -- for example, before there were free hospitals, libraries, education and so on -- no matter rich or poor, you never could be left without medical care, education, books, etc. Now the poor people can't have these. So, it's normal people to prefer the socialism (even it had some disadvantages).
 At the same time, people like this Chinese fellow, who experienced the system here which is more feudal than socialist or communist (for example, politically it's just one-man ruling, something like the emperors ago; the hospitals and the universities aren't free; the rich people have much more choices and better treatment in the society than the poor ones) can't see a reason to be socialist/communist (because they never lived in a real socialist society). I don't mean that the socialist Poland or socialist Bulgaria were the 100% ideal of socialism, there were some flaws too (like limitations for people to travel abroad, restricted free speech and some others) but at least there were those many free services (and cheap, affordable goods) that made most of the people feeling okay and with dignity.
 And, at the end, even at that time, there are those people who when they live in the capitalism they'll think that the socialism is better and the opposite.
 About the inceldom: in a real socialist society, it's easier to deal with the inceldom and I will explain why:
 When you're not worrying about money (because the hospitals, the education and the libraries are free + the goods are mostly cheap), then you usually can't be a greedy person and you'll focus more on art, culture, science, etc. In this kind of society the females are also going to be more educated, high-leveled and oriented to search males with brain, feelings, morals (not only males with money and looks).
 In the capitalism, especially the one that makes big gaps between poor and rich, and allows anarchy, crimes, etc. the females are growing more wild -- they value more animalistic qualities like strong body man, man full of resources and so on, and usually you can't impress such a woman with poetry, knowledge, romantic feelings and so on. Thus in the capitalism only the very rich, very powerful and very handsome males are secured with Stacy-level females, the rest -- if they can have a Becky are feeling lucky.
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and I am so-called 'garbage' in the world.


 But wait, you can't say so, because you're privileged comparing with all these guys (in Poland and other East European countries) who live poor life, who're dealing with falling missiles on their territory (because they're close to Russia and Ukraine) and who live in fear every day because even on the street they can get beaten by skinheads (光头党), football hooligans (那些喜欢打人的足球粉丝), dog bites (homeless dogs) and so on. You live in secured Shanghai and you're in a private university. Also you're more knowledgeable than most of the other Chinese (好多中国人的英语不好,你的算是特别好。而且大家,大多数,是农民,工人,服务员,司机。没有那么多会你一样懂IT或心理学。)
 If you're "garbage" who is not? The worker who thinks that "Malaysia" is "Bulgaria"? The waitress who thinks that all non-Chinese are rich? The peasant who even don't know that Thailand has no border with China? The cashier who thinks that all foreigners have got AIDS? The fuerdai (second generation rich) who only plays online games and never heard of Lech Walesa, Georgi Dimitrov and even local men like Mo Zi and Peng Dehuai, and who thinks that "planet" and "star" is one and the same?
 Most of the people around the world are very weak in knowledge, information and education. And most of the people live in dangerous areas. You're lucky enough to be what you are. Except adding to (maxxing) your body and curing the psychological problems, you're already okay. If you're only son, you're also guaranteed with apartment, maybe a car, you'll have a high salary job... you're just the ideal for son-in-law for many Chinese mothers and fathers. I know many in Shanghai are too greedy and picky, but not all China (and Asia) is like Shanghai or Shenzhen. Just geomaxx a bit (move to a less greedy place) and you'll be perceived as a very successful young man.
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Depression can go away.
Just look for the things in life that make you happy.
Huhh... yeah I know, but, the things that make me happy are not unachievable and unachieved, and the things that can't make me happy are achieved intrinsically.

 If you wish, share concretely what bothers you so much. Because I see Chinese in much worse conditions (for example the workers and soldiers in Xinjiang or those in Inner Mongolia) who stay there in subzero temperatures, deal with diseases, storms and so on... and still, most of them feel okay and some are even happy. You don't need to suffer in some cold place, don't need to fight with Indian army (like the ones in Tibet recently), don't need to work hard job (like all those in the mines, on the field and the construction workers)... For many people your worries are like "first world problem" (because being in Shanghai and in a private university is already one of the top worldwide).
 You're also much better than the poor foreigners in China (like me) because you have legal rights to work almost any job you want and we, the non-native speakers, after the 2017 law that limited us to be at least English teachers,... we were left almost without any chance to find a legal job (yes, if we're in Taiwan, Macao or Japan, we can work even as cleaners, waiters and so on but in China we can't. No foreign cleaners, no foreign bus drivers, no foreign postmen... ) Now I only survive here because I had a few private students (300 yuan per week), I collect empty bottles and cans on the streets and sell them (4 yuan per week) and I have some minor online earnings (a euro or two per week). Can you imagine what hell of life is it?
 If I can change (exchange) myself, I will prefer to be you, not me, when it comes being in China.
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and I am so-called 'garbage' in the world.


 But wait, you can't say so, because you're privileged comparing with all these guys (in Poland and other East European countries) who live poor life, who're dealing with falling missiles on their territory (because they're close to Russia and Ukraine) and who live in fear every day because even on the street they can get beaten by skinheads (光头党), football hooligans (那些喜欢打人的足球粉丝), dog bites (homeless dogs) and so on. You live in secured Shanghai and you're in a private university. Also you're more knowledgeable than most of the other Chinese (好多中国人的英语不好,你的算是特别好。而且大家,大多数,是农民,工人,服务员,司机。没有那么多会你一样懂IT或心理学。)
 If you're "garbage" who is not? The worker who thinks that "Malaysia" is "Bulgaria"? The waitress who thinks that all non-Chinese are rich? The peasant who even don't know that Thailand has no border with China? The cashier who thinks that all foreigners have got AIDS? The fuerdai (second generation rich) who only plays online games and never heard of Lech Walesa, Georgi Dimitrov and even local men like Mo Zi and Peng Dehuai, and who thinks that "planet" and "star" is one and the same?
 Most of the people around the world are very weak in knowledge, information and education. And most of the people live in dangerous areas. You're lucky enough to be what you are. Except adding to (maxxing) your body and curing the psychological problems, you're already okay. If you're only son, you're also guaranteed with apartment, maybe a car, you'll have a high salary job... you're just the ideal for son-in-law for many Chinese mothers and fathers. I know many in Shanghai are too greedy and picky, but not all China (and Asia) is like Shanghai or Shenzhen. Just geomaxx a bit (move to a less greedy place) and you'll be perceived as a very successful young man.
I am fixated on the migration into the Nordic or USA to learn Psychometrics, Japan is the third option because I gotta learn japanese and I don't think they develop Psychometrics well enough. This subject derived from the West and for Japan Singapore or other countries they at most learned 'clinical tests' well but not 'IQ tests', which is my biggest interest in the sense of psychometrics. It's again hard to explain here but I am just saying either in general are they undevelopped in this sense or they learned the things well which however are out of my interests, although Psychometrics contains way more things besides IQ tests.
I don't want to convey any 'IQ autistic' traits so let's not go deeper, but indeed IQ is now the thing that I care about most.
I think that is because I had tons of traumatic experiences during my primary school and my mother often said I was worthless, so I don't want to have any intrinsic disadvantages, which becomes the mainest reason why I have Depression.
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 I see.
 I wonder (if it's not too private), how does your mother think of you now, after you achieve more in your life? Does she praise you more (or at least stopped to criticize you)? Or she remains the same "never satisfied mother" with non-stop "I want more! It's nothing!"?
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