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Re: Art
« Reply #75 on: March 07, 2016, 12:51:19 AM »
Yes. Totally different. The art of mine is simple and a kind of paradoxal... I still haven't a good definition about it. :P I have a new one ('art creation'). I'll upload it later. ;D
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Art -- "What?!"
« Reply #76 on: March 07, 2016, 01:24:13 AM »
"What?!"
-- "What?!", February, 2016.
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Re: Art
« Reply #77 on: March 07, 2016, 02:58:30 AM »
Maybe one of the ways to shed light on the creations is this series of images where I am making a glass that is used in a different image I will show you later.

The same process was used to create the jug in the final image in this post. A couple of times it's been asked if some part of the image is from a real photo. I do at times use backgrounds from a real photo, or use high detailed images to create the look of water, wood, or other items. But there are parts that the graphics programs themselves will recreate as far as the look of something. Glass is one that they will create without having to have an image to do so yourself.


Here is the first step, creating an out line.

Here the outline is filled out to create a full 3D subject.

Here the object has been textured to give it that 'look'.

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Re: Art
« Reply #78 on: March 07, 2016, 03:33:22 AM »
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The art of mine is simple and a kind of paradoxal...

My mother was at one time an art teacher. She had trained in college as an artist and then went on to Paris to learn dress design. She did not further her ambitions in this field as she became pregnant with me and got married instead. I was taught the value of reading at a young age with an appreciation of art as a side bonus.

During my younger years, I did learn somewhat to draw. But I never stayed at it and my drawings and doodles would look much the same as MSL's. Plus my interests diverged in other directions.

What I am saying here is I can draw no better than MSL. He has the advantage he's willing to show his... I'm not.
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Re: Art
« Reply #79 on: March 07, 2016, 04:16:57 AM »
If I'm not wrong this is your 2nd tutorial (@mojo). Thank you so much! I'm not going to do this, but I like to have it in front of my eyes and I am sure there are many of the unique visitors around, who will really like it and use it. Good job.
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Re: Art
« Reply #80 on: March 07, 2016, 06:08:59 AM »
 Heyyyy, thanks a lot (including about the mother's story)!  :) :) But I'd like to tell you a 'secret': all my drawings here I made during our private language lessons -- I want to cheer up the students and in 1-2 minutes I'm drawing something a bit funny, a bit meaningful. And, because it's 'a kind of' art, I'm posting it here (more content, you know :) + more fun). If I want really to draw, it will be a bit more prettier, but I'm not very good at it. :) I am much better in poetry and literature. But, thanks once again, for the good and encouraging words! Great people, great community!
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Re: Art
« Reply #81 on: March 07, 2016, 06:49:35 AM »
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If I'm not wrong this is your 2nd tutorial

They are not actually tutorials in the sense of 'this is how you do this'. In many places I have drawn what could charitably be called doubt as to actually being able to do images of this sort. So along the way I have captured screenshots from programs while in the making. It is my way to disarm those who would say one does not have the ability to do such. I never make the claim it is easy. I never make the claim that it is quick to do. One must have the dedication to stick with it and the love of doing so for surely for the hours it is not something that you could make a living at.

In some places quite frankly, I cheat. In others there is no substitute for doing it yourself if you want it as part of an image. The point is not that the viewer has to be intimate with the how to dos so much but rather for the appreciation of a finished image.
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An idea
« Reply #82 on: March 08, 2016, 04:54:40 AM »
 I got this idea a few seconds ago: combine your cooking/food hobby with this art-hobby at least once -- make an image of your favorite dish (or at least include it in some other image as a detail like: a table with some candles in some dark castle style room and this dish on the table; or just a romantic table in front of the sea, whatever...). I suggest it also with a bit of selfish interest ;): I want to see a pretty art-image (as the other above) of your food. If you like this idea, please have a try, because I'm 99.99% sure you're able to create something astonishing. :) (And, of course, if someday you create something like this, or you already created and in fact it's an old idea, please share it here!)
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Re: Art
« Reply #83 on: March 09, 2016, 03:01:09 AM »
There are some technical difficulties with what you are suggesting and I will have to think this one over on how to over come them and still produce a believable image.

One of them is the last computer I did this on, I broke. I lost my balance, fell on the computer (cracked a rib in the process), broke the USB port which then shorted and fried the computer.

I now have a new one to replace it but it took around a year to save up for it, to make up my mind to spend the money for it (as they are not cheap for this level of computer) and then actually do it. I have removed the old HDs from the old graphics computer and installed them in this new one but have yet to install the programs. I made one run at doing so and the program I tried to install didn't like the newer Win 10 OS. I think I might have made an error in the installation process. At any rate I uninstalled it and haven't tried again to reinstall again. Putting them all back on this new computer appears it is going to be challenging.

For another what I post is deceptive to the viewer. In this I mean that they see the ones that came out better. You don't see the 20  that didn't make the grade. One of the other challeging parts of what you suggest, is that when you make something in one of these programs, it doesn't look at first like what you see in the image. For instance in the pipe image shown (or the glass image for that matter) I've shown you the wireframe and the completed image. There is another view where you look at it from the solid view as you make it. Everything is always modeled in a default plastic material. Mostly either white or gray. So you make a tree, it  doesn't have color to it, doesn't look like a tree, it looks like it just came out of a plastic mold in the shape of a tree. To get it to look like a tree, you have to go in and change the appearance of the various parts. This requires two things (not to mention a lot of patience). It requires either you make the texture that will give it the look of leaves or bark, or you take a high resolution photo of what you want it to look like from something in real life, photoedit it to what it is going to be in the image, and then unfold the object from it's 3D configuration, sort of paste the image on that unfolded object, and then refold it, back to it's original shape. How much and how often depends on the complication of your model, the horse power of your computer, and your abilities to actually pull it off.

Somethings can be done without all that, such as the skies you were questioning about. Depending on what sky you want, some programs can generate unique sky scenery. In this case you mention, I'd have to take at least 3 photos of say the  chicken for the different angles, photo edit the chicken itself for one piece, model it, unfold it, attach the image, refold it, and move on to the next piece and repeat. Same to be done with the bowl, the table, and all other objects in it. Some can be cheated with as there are already existing ones. But most are not of high enough resolution to pull off believable.

I could probably pull off what you suggest. It's the time factor that would kill me in doing this.
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Re: Art
« Reply #84 on: March 09, 2016, 03:09:42 AM »

In this one the mouse holds the glass that was shown in the earlier image resized to fit this particular image. The texture of the glass has been changed from glass to a sort of crystal.
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Re: Art
« Reply #85 on: March 09, 2016, 03:29:22 AM »
 I posted an answer + a question in your USA's thread. ;D Sorry. A link: http://www.seo-forum-seo-luntan.com/else-topics/those-who-have-questions-about-the-usa/msg27018/#msg27018.
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Re: Art
« Reply #86 on: March 09, 2016, 03:44:03 AM »
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May I ask something else? What is the easiest object to create and what is the hardest?

This one is an easy one to answer in the sense of methods. The most basic easy to create items are what are known as primitive geometric shapes, such as a cylinder, cone, sphere, or box. The reason they are so easy to create is most 3D programs have them as defaults where you just click on a button and then you determine the width, length, and depth, by mouse dragging. The hardest are free hand objects (such as the glass shown eariler) where you make the shape and often have to do several of these, attach them to each other, to actually make the shape you are after. After all that, it still looks like plastic.
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Re: Art
« Reply #87 on: March 09, 2016, 03:56:03 AM »

In this one the mouse holds the glass that was shown in the earlier image resized to fit this particular image. The texture of the glass has been changed from glass to a sort of crystal.
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Re: Art
« Reply #88 on: March 11, 2016, 02:37:54 AM »
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Re: Art
« Reply #89 on: March 11, 2016, 03:30:01 AM »
My comment: the most 'real' (realistic) here is the earring. Completely as a nephrite earring. :)
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