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1501
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Shortcel, imo is one kind of 'truecel', which means the inceldom is irreversible, unless you'd like to compromise your kinetic functions, and sacrifice A LOT OF money if you have to do Limb Lengthening Surgery.

 1. Only if we're talking about midget-tier shortcels. All those fake shortcels (fakecels) who self-proclaim themselves as "shortcels" just because they are not clever enough to geo-maxx or because they are ~40% taller than them normies aren't in the group of the truecels.
 2. In case we're talking about a real shortcel (midget-tier) there are still some softmaxxes (we never should be so oversimplified like the black-pill-ed incels, who're knowing only hardmaxxes like: surgery-maxx, shemale-maxx, etc.) like popularity-maxx and money-maxx.
 Example -- Dani DeVito (1.47 m) who is an actor and he has 3 kids (Lucy DeVito, Gracie DeVito and Jake DeVito). Or let's take as another example the HK actor Eric Tsang (曾志伟) (1.59 m) who had a wife and I think he had wife and then remarried. These super popularity-maxxed good actors are never incels and they can be only volcels (if they choose to). And they did the right choice to become actors instead of "Limb Lengthening Surgery". And you're taller than both of them!

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I found out that, China has the least acceptances for shortcel.

 I am not sure if the heightism is the worse in China. And even it is, let's say, being shorter (even more shorer) in the West doesn't make it better. Let's assume that maybe the Westerners will be 40% more tolerant to you for being short, but there you'll be "super short", i. e. in China at least you're perceived as a "Just a shorter man." but in the West nearly 100% of the people may think of you as a shortcel or nearshortcel. And then what's the profit of this geominn (height wise)?
 
 
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men under 175cm are disabled, and a shortcel cannot be a pop star no matter how handsome and how charismatic he is.
王源 (Wang Yuan) from TFBoys is around 170 m. Of course, it's better when you're tall but what you're saying isn't 100% correct. There are shorter stars in China (and not only in China), even some of the minorities like 阿尔法 (Arslan Arafat, an Uigur) are not taller than 1.75 m.
 
 
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West has higher but only moderate acceptances for shortcel. Yeah there are of course refuses and humiliations in the West society to shortcels, but women weigh higher his persoanlity, skill, talkativeness, etc. than those in China, and Westner is more honest in the self-reported height, and shortcels there have more courages to report their heights in public. They can also be pop stars, and even if you are not just shortcel, but a 'dwarfcel', like Peter Dinklage, you can still be a star. This level of acceptance was even impossible for old generations of China

 It's more or less idealized West. Usually made by foreigners who never went there and experience it by themselves. And, at the same time, over-critic towards China (where politically we know it's not a paradise, but when it comes to the height -- we can't ignore cases like 王祖蓝 (Wong Cho-lam) who is only 1.63 m or 潘长江 (Pan Chang-Jiang) who is only 1.60 m). Just, let's be objective and honest towards China, Chinese.
 Don't drop in this trap "It sucks in China, but when I am in the West, oh, there is everything roses and "champagne" and I will ascend!" The same mistake are making some Westerncels who're thinking that play "JBW" (Just be white) in China is going to give them tons of Chinese girls admiring their white skin and long nose. It's just not working that way and you should be ready for a harder times in the geominned environment like the West, where you'll see problems that you only read online till now, including racism (and more discrimination), aggression on many levels, different bigots, different asocial elements, vulgarization and so on.
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it's really unlucky for me to be born in China, with 162-163 cm, which is already considered as subhuman
In South China (Guizhou, Guangxi, Hainan, etc.) many local males are around this tall and nobody thinks of them as "subnuman"s. (It's a Nazi term, also a term used by the retarted black-pill-ers, which isn't popular in China. Here it's rare someone to use "近似人类的" or something, except when they're talking against Japanese or something ultranationalistic.) You're still a young person without enough travel experience in China and abroad. But soon, we hope, you will and then you'll get more real picture how it feels when you're around people with medium height around 1.80 m  ;D compared with those of us who'll geomaxx in South-East Asia where the medium height is around 1.60 m. :)
 
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and never a dating material
And then how all these short Chinese still date girls? And they're not at all Jack Ma (马云) who is 166 cm. They're average rich ones but do you know what they have that you still haven't? Jester-maxx, social-maxx, geo-maxx (not living in Shanghai, I suppose, if there the situation is what you describe, which I doubt a little, but I accept what you represent), gym-maxx (something that you said you're ignoring because you don't like it but it's almost a must today, especially if you're not tall), money-maxx... Some of them are shorter than you and they still have girls. It's because they didn't stop at the point "I am short, it's over." and because they never ever read a single black-pilled forum where they'll be ingrained with the pessimism like "Short = rope".

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But the girls should not be to blame for it.

Which ones? Some 1.72 m from Shanghai or some 1.45 m from Hainan? Excuse me, but when you're geominned (height wise) like living in Shanghai + going to over geo-minn yourself moving to a North European or North American territory, we really have to say that we can't blame the females. Did you read about Gulliver? For example, "Gulliver in Lilliput" -- there he looks like a giant (super geo-maxxed, height wise) and "Gulliver in the Land of Giants" -- there he looks like a dwarf (super geo-minned, height wise). Well, now you're on your way to become almost a Gulliver in the land of giants because the places where you're going even the females are the same tall as you are or taller. If now in Shanghai at least 20% of the people are around your height, when you're, let's say in Sweden or in Canada, well, only 5% will be around your height. And what you'll do then when you realize that the heightism remains, the people see you as more short than you were seen here and that you're not a dating material even more (because the East Asians are one of the least popular compared with the rest, except maybe some of the South Asians and some of the North Africans?...) You will need tons of maxxes to compensate all of it (you know that even the local East Asians, the so-called ricecels, are having hard times, there right? But at least they're fluent in English and they're culturally and subculturally adapted.) I don't know... I mean, it's possible but I am not sure if exactly you can do it. You'll need a routine like at least 4 hours/day in the gym + 6 hours/day study + 2-3 hours/day for your own needs (showers, rest, dinner, homeworks...) You'll need to be very well organized to achieve the accomplishment of a schedule like this. The other options were told: beta-buxxing some day, geomaxx (later, when you graduate) or just lower your standards (landwhales, ladyboys, gays... which, I know, aren't an option for most of the incels who can't just accept everything without some standards without being standardcels ("Stacy only" type).)
 On contrary, we're moving to the lands where even the tallest males are around our height. How we're going to feel there? Taller, for sure. Geo-maxxed for sure.

1502
Other languages / Отговорност
« on: April 20, 2023, 03:04:25 AM »

Нещо свързано с отговорността


 Всеки може да каже всичко за всеки, но трябва да носи отговорност за думите си.

1503
 So, maybe there is some chance to add some centimeter to your present height in the near future.

1504
其它信息 / Re: 2007的 周宁的吧
« on: April 20, 2023, 02:09:13 AM »
怎么用对的英文:
               
Expesnses --> Expenses                
They are part-time teacher --> They are part-time teachers.
internet --> Internet
It is from her home --> It is from her home.
Classroom Desk --> Classroom desks       
Two big table and small old one --> Two big tables and a small (old one).
Classroom Chair --> Classroom chairs         
Her table and bed are free --> Her table and bed are free.
None, she don’t need --> None; she doesn't need it.
To children’s market it is a little High ,but we are the best one --> To education market it is a bit high, but we're the best.
4hours/week --> 4 hours/week
50yuan --> 50 yuan
6papers/mon --> 6 papers/mth
when in sumer and winter , those two month ,we will get more money. --> During the summer and winter vacations (those two months), we will earn more money.
I believe ,the student will be more and more, because the chinese is much,  and  still get more and more family from north come to here. --> I believe the students will be more and more because the Chinese population is growing steadily and also there are more families from the North coming here.
I believe this compeny is not lie, because ,before, one of my boss bought  one lap top from them and no  any problem. --> I believe this company is not a fake one because one of my bosses bought one laptop from them and there wasn't any problem.
And  I add air condition , because that is useful for the school --> And I add "air-conditioner" because that is useful for the school.
Here the school,  that Jason’s teacher’s school is the best of them, it is so simple, even the table are not sierius.  Mostly  ,they have two computers. They use the book buy from the shop, some small rooms, white board  only , they buy the old chairs, and we can ask the factory make them for us ,it will be chipper. --> About the local schools, here the best school is the one where Jason's teacher is working. It's so ordinary, even the desks there aren't good. They've got two computers. They use textbooks bought from the bookstore, some small classrooms, only one whiteboard and their chairs are secondhand chairs. And we can order new ones directly from the factory, it will be cheaper. 

1505
其它信息 / 2007的 周宁的吧
« on: April 19, 2023, 06:48:17 PM »
可能是周宁的。英文差。

"      num of students   average/month   Total   
Sales      50   200   10000   
               
Expesnse               
   Teacher         2000-4000   They are part-time teacher
   Administration         0   none
   Rent         2800   120  m2
   phone         68   18.00 /month + 50
   internet         80   
   photocopy         10   She copied from shops
   bank charge         0   She don’t need
   tax         150   
               
Assets               
   Computer         4000-5000   It is from her home
   Classroom Desk      1800   Two big table and small old one
   Classroom Chair      1100   Old chairs
   Office furniture         800   Her table and bed are free
   Photocopier         0   none
   Telephone         0   It is free
   Printer         300   
   Scanner         0   None, she don’t need
   Fax         0   none

      num of students   average/month   Total   
Sales      80   250   20000   To children’s market it is a little
               High ,but we are the best one
Expesnse               
   Teacher         7000   8 classes* 4hours/week *50yuan
   Administration         4000   2000/person
   Rent         3000   
   phone         68   18.00 /month + 50
   internet         80   
   photocopy         110   0.08/paper  6papers/mon 80p
   bank charge         0   I don’t know.( if we need it?)
   tax         150   If we are sighed only school
               
Assets   Air condition         18000   3000*6
   Computer         3899*4=15596   Go to read NO.2 web
   Classroom Desk      4800   80yuan*60
   Classroom Chair      3600   60*60
   Office furniture         8000   800*6 tables 300*2self 200*10chairl
   Photocopier         699*2=1398   Go to read NO,1 web
   Telephone         0   It is free.
   Printer         0   Go to read NO.1 web
   Scanner         0   Go to read NO.1 web
   Fax         0   Go to read  NO.1 web
1-   ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/allinone?c=cn&cs=cndhs1&l=zh&s=dhs
2-   ap.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/dimen?c=cn&cs=cndhs1&l=zh&s=dhs&~ck=mn
when in sumer and winter , those two month ,we will get more money.
I believe ,the student will be more and more, because the chinese is much,  and  still get more and more family from north come to here.

DELL company  ,I believe this compeny is not lie, because ,before, one of my boss bought  one lap top from them and no  any problem.

This is my report.
And  I add air condition , because that is useful for the school

Here the school,  that Jason’s teacher’s school is the best of them, it is so simple, even the table are not sierius.  Mostly  ,they have two computers. They use the book buy from the shop, some small rooms, white board  only , they buy the old chairs, and we can ask the factory make them for us ,it will be chipper.

"

1506
 Lexi (kitsune) is an outlier. The average height of a Norwegian female is 165.6 cm, but maybe later she may grow up a bit taller because now she's ~ 14.5 y. o. She will be as tall as (at least) her mother (usually the girls are taller than their mothers and shorter than their fathers).

1507
 The meaning of "cognitive dissonance" is "inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes". Usually people know well if they're (comparatively) short or tall (shorter than most or taller than most). I remember an incel said somewhere that he was raised in Sweden (or Denmark? Not sure.) and when he visited Spain he found that most of the Spanish are shorter than him. I had some similar experiences in China:
 1) When I started to work in Dongbei (东北) -- mostly in Heilongjiang, Jilin and Liaoning provinces, I felt I am average or sometimes shorter. There are Chinese (even females) who are around 1.90 m. Later, when I moved to the South (Guangdong and especially -- Hainan), I found myself being a comparatively tall person. :)
 2) A Chinese woman from Guangdong said she was one of the shortest females in her town, but when she arrived in Hainan she said that here she met even shorter than her other women (and some men around her height) so then she became feeling like "I have a normal height here."
 Geomaxx is really a powerful maxxing way. :)
 
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I've seen countless boys complaining about how ugly they were but they were just normies.
You see? Something like you. :D You're underestimating your face. But you're comparatively objective about your height. I can give you this, I am taller than you but when I was (several times) in Shanghai I felt not that tall (as I feel in Guangdong, Macao (Aomen) and Hainan), so I know that most of the males in there are taller than you, hence you're right that you're (comparatively) shorter (but not a real shortcel which means midget-tier or nearly 100% geominn-ed person) and you will be a "taller man" in some Chinese areas like Guangxi, Hainan, Guizhou /according to / or in some countries like East Timor, Nepal, Ecuador, Sri Lanka, Mozambique, Peru...

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 I see. I only wanted to expand it a bit, in order to give some more options for those incels who're willing to geomaxx in some West-like place.
 By the way, you surely have to include Canada too.

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Other languages / Дезинфекция
« on: April 19, 2023, 05:23:24 AM »

Дезинфекция


  Важно е да има добра хигиена. Дезинфекцията е част от хигиената. Та утре ще правя малка дезинфекция на едно място в настоящото жилище.

1511
 Let me add only one more example. It's about the salary but the analogy is really strong and based!  8) When I came to China and my salary was around RMB 4000 most of the Chinese women from the big cities perceived me as a "poor foreigner", "a loser", "average income", "And you call yourself a successful man?!" but at that time, this income was a 3-4 times higher than the average (median) one in Bulgaria. There many people (males and females) was like "How?! Just like being a teacher?!", "You're damn lucky!", "I even can't earn RMB 40!", "You're a liar, maybe you're just a communist and the Party pays you that much, we all know you're a communist!!", "Wow! I want to be an English teacher in China too!", "Send me money, bro!"...
 You see? The height is the same. In Shanghai you're not that tall, but in Laos or Equador, or Timor-Leste you're "Normal man" and even "He's tall."  :) It's really relative.
 But, yes, because you're heading to "Chadlands"  ;D (the places where the Chad percentage is higher) you'll face some geominn in one or another degree, so without serious maxxing the locals (the majority I guess) will not give you a chance. But, as I said, later you may find a wife online, there is no need to search for a Chadland's female who'll probably will have higher standards.

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But you are downplaying the detriment of being short though.
Only if you were a midget. For example, if you were a 1.10 m person, all I said maybe will be not that useful. But with your height, even in Shanghai you're closer to the middle height than to the midgets, so the maxx-es could work on you. Like now you're 10% attractive (from 100 girls only 10 may think you're cute) but if you add muscles, change your style (to the most contemporary fashions around or discover some own unique style), popularity-maxx (like you have got 1.5 million followers online) and so on, then you can rise it up to at least 25% (from 100 girls, 1/4 will like you; Some will still say "Nah, too short.", others will be like "Too nerdy!" and there will be those who are "Only GigaChad!!! I am a princess I want the best!" but still if you're popular, muscular, stylish and rich enough, there will be 1 of 4 or around it to say "Yes, this man is okay!" And maybe you'll get some additional % of those who will agree to be with you for a short-term thing like "one night stand", if it matters to you.)
 
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I have seen countless shortcels who are way better than me in other aspects but they got filtered out again and again by girls
Depends on where. If they're in New Your or Shaghai and they deal with these princess syndrome type girls around (the majority, not all), then yes. But if you're in some town like 彰武 (Zhang wu), 库尔勒 (Kuerla; Korla), Akron or Santa Rosa then you will see at least 1/3 of the females who are not going to think first and most about your height (because, still, I mean you're not a typical shortcel but you may be if you're in Northern Europe or in some American place where the people are very tall.)

 The height is mostly subjective (i. e. relative) -- as I told to that Scandinavian girl, if I am in her country I'll look to others like "a shortie" but if I am in South-East Asia (for example, in Laos) I'll be seen as a "tall European". That's why for the heightcels (no matter shortcels or tallcels) the best maxxing is geomaxx and then, if possible, everything else:

- gymmax (the second best)
- moneymaxx (the nearly universal equalizer)
- popularitymaxx (sometimes not a good choice if you want a quiet life)
- artmaxx (painting, musical instruments and singing, photography)
- etc. maxx  :)

1513
 I remember that economics oriented forum where the rule was "no politics" but later, because the economics and the politics are very related, they allowed a political based section. ;D Well, the were in a place where the free political speech wasn't so complicated and restricted like in China. When you're still in China and you want people from China to access your website, you better avoid the political topics. (Because once banned most of the Chinese visitors are never coming to visit you again; most of the Chinese people aren't well educated about the internet and the majority have no idea what is VPN + even they have, many of them will not spend these dollars per month for the VPN's fee.)
 Another point, even in countries where we think that the free speech is absolute and there are no problems to criticize this or that, still sometimes there may be politicians who'll feel very bad about what you're talking online about them and then, they'll find some way to hurt your website or yourself, which is totally democratic, like "Where are your proves? We'll meet in the court!" or they may just really find some of your real problems and to expose them (for example, some person who's breaking some law even without knowing it)... so, isn't it better to refrain from the political talks, except when it comes to really, really necessary problems like when it comes to our lives, for example (aggressive war (Ukraine), crazy baseless lockdowns ("0 COVID"),...)?
 And yes, there is some correlation: people who're spending too much time thinking of politics score low with the females and the opposite -- people who save time and instead of politics focus on business, sports, popularity online, etc., tend to find a female easier.

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 I really have to use my privilege here to answer shortly: everyone who can't see that the present state is no more one-Party republic but a neo-monarchy, i. e. a one-man (neo-monarch, neo-emperor, neo-tsar) feudal state just lives in the past and or can't see that China, Russia, North Korea, Belarus... are really not anymore republics -- they are, de facto, monarchies (kingdoms, empires) where the ruler (one man) decides everything and no party (parties) can be anything else than his tool/servant (tools or servants).
 The soon you realize it's just neofeudalism (the feudalism in the present that uses the new technologies) the better. It will remove the burden and you'll be able to focus on your real personal development (which is not politics and political science). I don't know do you want kids or not, but imagine this: some day when your kid/kids is/are willing something (a toy, good food, study abroad, money for hospital, etc.) they'll just expect from you to give them the thing (= money), they're not going to say "Yeah, 老爸 (dad), is poor and a loser in the life, but hey, see how well he describes the political propaganda! Hell yeah! Why I need to eat, why I need to study, why I need a home, when dad already told me about the politics?" ;D

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 Your case is mixed one. You're geomaxxing in sense of: politics, economy, etc. (obviously you'll have more political freedom, access to casinos like in Macao, more free speech, better income...) but you're geominning in sense of your male attractiveness. You know who're one of the most bitter incels online? The so-called ricecels (incels in the West from Korea, China, Japan, Vietnam, etc.) who non-stop complain how hard is for them in the West, how the females choose even black men over them, how even the money-maxx isn't working (like the case of that Elliot Roger, who was a hapacel, in fact), how their parents are guilty to bring them in the West and so on. But at least they're (most of them) born there and they had no choice. But you're making this choice by yourself so, keep in mind that it's nearly 100% volcel choice. (But it's not over! Anytime when you're job-maxxed, money-maxxed and so on, you may find online some good girl from the Philippines, Latin America or Africa, if you wish, even from East Europe like Moldova, Armenia... and I am sure you'll be married at least in this way... well, if you're very lucky you may have a chance even in the West with some so-called unicorn -- one of those rare girls who'll like you because of your mind, knowledge, personality, romantic heart and reasonable attitude.) Just being honest, no offense, no jokes.

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