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1996
Incelology -- the science about inceldom, incels, incelophobia, etc. More: incelology.

1997
 Femcel (pl. femcels) -- female incels. (For more details: different incels' categories.)

1998
He's thinking something like this: "I am already rich enough and educated. I am with a decent personality and single. That's already enough for every single Chinese or foreign woman to agree to date me." He can't realize that the love needs also at least a bit physical, body, looks attractiveness (the biological base of the love). Only with social upgrade (moneymaxx, edumaxx and personalitymaxx) you can't attract enough. In the best case you'll find some "unicorn" (these rare females nowadays who only value the character, moral and personality, and don't care at all about the looks). But, usually, people like him will end up (in the majority of the best cases) as beta-buxxers.

1999
I meant that most of the Europeans will like to go at least to the beach to have some tan, but in China people (especially females) do avoid getting darker (tanned) so even on the beach they avoid direct sunshine and some of them even cover their faces with facekini: . During the hot sunny days most of the females (and even males) do use umbrellas to avoid getting even 1% darker because here the "darker" means "uglier" (the roots are not racist but class -- the darker skin were associated with field labor or other hard job, i. e. with a low-class, poverty, etc. and step by step, the Chinese society developed some degree of pale/white skin worship; of course maybe there are also some genetic traits in this, but I am not 100% sure). This is a typical Chinese summer habit: .

I do agree that it's a sort of stupid to go to solarium because it's not healthy for the skin. Good to know that the clever women already avoid these things.
 By the way, in some European countries (Albania, Bulgaria, Ukraine, etc.) there is a significant % of females who do prefer darker males (like Latino type -- Spanish, Mexican, Colombian and so on) and also Arab and African. Some incels from those countries complain that females rather to date these guys than others. What's the Polish situation? Is there a big % of Polish females who will choose a darker man (like Brazilian, Iranian, Arab, Portuguese...) or they're strictly white Chad oriented?  :)

2000
Yes, it's a good example. But many (most) of the incels communities online are similar and the reason is the ideology focused on the only one (one of the many) theories (the black pill, a.k.a. blackpill), which is the worst possible choice because it's fatalistic (don't see the positive possibilities and thinks that everything is 100% predestined by genetics, fate, society and others), it's a cult (if you have another point of view, even the similar, but more realistic redpill (red pill), you're banned or attacked or called "bluepilled" and so on) which brainwashes the incels in the negative way...

2001

Incel  in denial (denialcel)


A denialcel


  Incel in denial or a denialcel is a person who is dealing somehow with the inceldom but he (she) has no idea that he/she is an incel (femcel). He or she just deny or underestimate his/her inceldom.
 And here is my newest chat with a denialcel (he is a Chinese good man, educated too, with some good earnings from the educational business in Guangdong). The main reasons causing his inceldom are that he's not very attractive as face (3/10 to 3.5/10 at best) and he's short (shorter than most of the Chinese in South China).
 Because he's mostly a shortcel, I think, this is his main problem and I tried to give him a hint that he should at least gymmaxx (to improve his body and to compensate at least a bit his shortness). If he's gymmaxed, he may achieve a 4.5/10 status (because seems he's already moneymaxxed and statusmaxxed, also he has very good personality) but he surprisingly thinks that he's already enough good to have a girl-friend and even asked me to connect him with a foreign girlfriend (without knowing good English and without improved body) and he is feeling that it's so normal to have a girlfriend in his situation that even said that he doesn't want to use online dating because it's too slow for him; he wants someone to introduce a girl directly to him and to start dating asap. ;D
 This is how entitled are many of the incels (denialcels especially) today (they can't imagine that women do have wishes, ideals, needs and they can't just accept you because you need a girlfriend.)
 Some moments from the chat:

 
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我做教育,成功了啊;只是没有女朋友,可以介绍个外国女友么
(I am in the educational business, successful; just have no girlfriend, can you introduce a foreign girlfriend to me?)

 After a website (in English where he can try to find some foreign women) idea: 
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但是我英语不好啊
(But my English isn't good!)

 After I found for him a website in Chinese:
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网络上的,一般要很长时间
如果直接有人介绍,就好很多
(When it comes to online dating, usually it takes a long time

If there is a person who can directly introduce someone, then this is the really good thing.)

 So, do you think this man will find a girlfriend if he continues to keep his status unchanged? I think he's almost without chance to ascend if he's not going to improve himself (much) more.

2002
 Right now I remembered a funny story from my childhood. We had some foreign guests in our school (native Indians from a Latin American country). Maybe you all know that the American Indians are with Asian origin (they moved from North Asia long time ago), so till today they look mostly "Asian". For example these native Brazil people:
 And when those came to our school, even we knew they're not Chinese or Japanese, we were "sure" that they know kung fu or karate because "They are so Asian!"  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
 What I mean is that in the eye of a foreigner (without experience) all Mongoloids (yellow race people) are similar or "the same", so I do agree with Zhang that in Asia, the local females, may rate him higher if he's with more pale skin, longer nose, rounder eyes and tall, but once in the West, it's not noticeable -- the Asian fans will like him the same and the females who dislike Asians will dislike him the same.

2003
@Enlighten3d, I also think so, but many Chinese (and other Asian people) tend to like those almost mixed White-yellow people (for example for many Asian females a "混血" (hybrid) kid looks much prettier than a local kid). So, he's right that in China, Japan, Indonesia, etc. being with bigger nose, rounder eyes and so on is more attractive than the classical Asian, but tell him that usually the Westerners doesn't make easy difference between a dude from Japan and a dude from Thailand (if they're not fans who study Asia). The same as in China -- here a Polish, a Spanish, an Arab and a Turkish look the same to most of the Chinese who didn't meet many foreigners.

2004
 Most of the Western people, including the K-pop, J-pop, Q-pop fans, do NOT make any difference between those with some Caucasian similarities and those without them. Maybe you never heard about it but for many Westerners "Chinese look all the same." and "Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese... they're all the same." For you it's easy to say who is from Xinjiang and who is from Hongkong but to them all is "just Asian".
 There are many examples about it, there are even articles online about it -- check this one, for example: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/breyeschow/2012/07/31/all-asians-look-the-same/ ("Why Do All Asians Look the Same?")
 For the Westerners who never been in East Asia or never met many Asians even some Russian Tatars look 100% Asian. For some of them Andy Lau and Bruce Lee, Hu Jintao and Mao Zedong -- all look the same.
 The girls who like Koreans or Japanese, they like them exactly because they are ASIAN not because they have some Western things. If they want Western (like the majority of the females) they will never pay attention to something like Korean...
 Remember that once you're in the West, no matter pale skinned Korean or darker skinned Vietnamese, you're just an Asian for 90%+ of the people.

2005
 If you didn't, please take a look at Just be white -- one side thinking.
 What you're saying resembles the pessimistic, blackpilled and racepilled point "Only the white guys are handsome, if you're not white, you're done and it's over!" Don't fall in this trap, created by low IQed incels.
 You're living in Shanghai, so, yes, you saw Chinese women with white men, but you also saw Chinese women with black man and south Asian, Arab, African etc. men (semi-white or non-white) for sure. Maybe you heard that some Chinese women also marry Japanese (even most of Chinese can't believe it), Koreans, etc. And now, check this out -- when you're outside, start to count the couples and you'll find out that MOST OF the Chinese females are with Chinese boy-friends and Chinese husbands...
 We do agree that there is something called "white worship" in China (Chinese avoid the sunshine, no tan fans, many people think that the people from the North, like 东北人 are better looking than the darker and shorter southerners). But it's a detail -------------------------> maybe being a whiter and taller will give you 10% or 15% advantage, but if you're lacking these:

- money
- knowledge and character for love
- good man (male) body (or something fashionable like K-pop style feminine look),

 then you white-ness, Caucasian-ness and stuff is worthless.


 Well, now let's suppose you're a very typical souther Asian (I think you're not 100%, because you're also having some northern traits -- for example, your skin isn't dark like that of the people in Hongkong, Guangdong, Guangxi, Yunnan and Hainan), then what? Then more and more (更加!) you have to maxx the things that females find attractive: muscles (gymmaxx), capital (moneymaxx), status (being a professor is a good statusmaxx!) and so on (for example, artmaxx) -- learn playing guitar or singing well, or even something traditional like guzheng (古箏).

2006
 I am not sure if you really have got exactly the MDD. You know, self-diagnosis isn't always accurate. Even doctors may make wrong diagnosis. But, let's suppose, that you've got this or another kind of depression. What science says about it? Exact cause of these is often unknown and psychological trauma or stress are important factors in predisposed people.
 As was noticed above, maybe your school had some impact on your psychological status (then and now) and/or maybe your overstrict mother caused this more or less but you're just born like this (sensitive and thinker type person, probably introverted to some degree) and then, the things is: if you're in a stressful conditions you'll be more depressed. You need harmony, safety and understanding, loving people around you -- then you'll be like a genius, maybe very creative. You're just a clever, intelligent, sensitive and fragile person, so you should avoid the hard conditions + you should train yourself to be as brave (strong, man up and "don't care") as possible.

2007
Stars / Qatar 2022 World Cup Mascot and football stars
« on: December 16, 2022, 02:47:33 AM »

La'eeb -- the Qatar 2022 world cup mascot


 A La'eeb (the Qatar's World cup mascot) from South China: and football stars on dairy products in a supermarket in South China: .

2008
fakecel (pl. fakecels); braincel (pl. braincels) -- incels who are only self-proclaimed incels (believing wrongly that they're incels) or noncels who lie that they're incels. For more: Different incels' categories.

2009
I'll read it these days (I plan so.) and maybe will comment some of its parts. Thank you for sharing this!

2010
mentalcel (pl. mentalcels); braincel (pl. braincels) -- incels with psychological, psychopathological or psychiatric problems. For more: Different incels' categories.

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