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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / About my free incel e-book "500 Rejections"

« on: July 18, 2022, 04:42:43 AM »

When I was in Incels.is (and before I got banned because one of their moderator has no idea what is the definition of "incel") I wanted to help the incels over there as much as possible -- to prevent their suicidal thoughts, to give them more hopes and copes which are healthy, more lifefuel, etc. I think that most of them are teenagers with a very limited life experience. So I wanted to share with them my rejection experience (in this way they can learn how to avoid some scams, how to be ready for rejections, what to expect in the future and so on).

I tried to be a polite and nice person so I made a poll (and a topic) over there in which I said: (Experiment) "I got rejected more than 500 times in my life. How many of you would like to read about it?"

The poll results were: Share about these 500+ rejections one by one?
Yes, that's useful, I may learn a lot!   Votes: 16   59.3%   
No, what's the point?   Votes: 4   14.8%   
As you wish, I don't care.   Votes: 3   11.1%   
Just start it and if the brocels don't care, stop it later.   Votes: 4   14.8%   

(I cast 1 vote for the last option.)

So, most of them decided that it'll be useful and they may learn a lot.

Before I introduce my new e-book, let me share the details (opinions) that I've got in that conversation with some of the brocels.

Well, I started with

Hi, brocels! Because (maybe) I am the oldest here logically I got rejected more than 500 times so far. :feelshaha:

It's not something to be proud of (except "Wow, what a persistant oldcel!") :feelshaha::feelshaha:

So, because I don't want to bother you with stories of rejections from females (from Europe and Asia mostly + some from the US), at first, just to ask you:

If I start to write about them, one by one, is it going to be useful or interesting to you, or not?

HiddenUzer said that he likes to hear about other people's experience so he doesn't mind.

I answered that

I think I can make the threads about it shorter here and to share the longer stories in a link to another source. Like that the brocels who want to read more will read more; the others who prefer the short type stories will just read the short here and will not getting bored.

PLUS

Thanks, HiddenUzer@HiddenUzer for the answer. I'll wait to read the opinion of others too and if 50%+ want it, I'll do it. (I really don't want to bother anybody here; only wish to help as much as I can because most of the incels are really good but unlucky guys.)

BlkPillPres said "No, don't care.

If anything I'd say you were "stupid" not "persistent".

Stopping at 50 would have made sense.

Stopping at 100 can be excused.

But continuing past that is no longer a feat of will or intelligence, it's just outright denial of reality, it's just coping. I can just imagine how much money you wasted buying clothes, styling yourself, using hair and skin care products, trying to max out your looks in various ways.

All futile.


Honestly, if I had finally gotten laid after 499 attempts, I wouldn't even feel happy about it or proud. I would likely stop approaching and just start fucking whores, because who the fuck is going to do another 400+ approaches after the current bitch you have leaves you for an upgrade? (that's the most probable outcome for an incel).

The juice isn't worth the squeeze. The returns don't match the investment. It's just not worth the effort."

Then, because I saw he doesn't get it, I answered, the truth, that

Brocel, I never said I am a kissless or a virgin incel. :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha: I had some success before.

Then I got fat, older, etc. and already around 10 years I'm loveless lonely incel.

But recently I'm improving myself (gymmaxx, studymaxx, moneymaxx, etc.) so this is meaningful to persist.

AND

Really sorry, if someone thinks that all the incels are virgins. IN THIS FORUM there are many incels who even order prostitutes (escrortcels)...

Incel = involuntarily celibate (but even most of the volcels in the monasteries and churches, before they go there have had sex or even love.)

So... I'm just not what you imagined (a kissles and a virgin incel). i'm just incel in the past around 10 years. That's it.

Meanwhile doomed 7 told me to post about them.

I answered with:

OK, I hope more people will vote for it and I'll write every day 2-3 stories.

Now I think that 2-3 per day is a bit more because I started to develop this new incels forum over here. But even 1 per day should be enough for the readers. I hope nothing bad is going to happen with me or with this forum so I will be able to finish this big e-book.

BoxCutter also said that tbh "I'd like to hear some".

turbosperg posted something interesting; it worth a special discussion because points to important inceldom problems but for now I'll just quote it here: "When you're ugly, your rejections are brutal -- looks of disgust, harsh words, jokes, bullying, etc.

You don't need 500 such experiences to conclude you're unwanted by foids.

The theory that "tHerE's SoMeOnE fOr EvErYoNe" doesn't hold water because mate-seeking behavior doesn't vary within a species.

In the wilderness, the animals that are fucking zebras are zebras. Is there a zebra that would rather fuck a donkey? Perhaps, but highly unlikely they'll pair up in the wild. Likewise, among foids, their mate-selection criteria is the same across the whole species -- looks, money, status.

Maybe a stacy will reject a non-Chad that would still have a chance with a becky. But if foids from all PSL ratings, all abdominal circumferences, all walks of life they all reject you, that's because you're a zebra waiting for a nice-looking donkey to fuck. Not happening."

NoTommERow asked do I feel bad "because you don't have a wife and kids(I assume you don't) ,aka the typical human life?What are your most important regrets in life?"

I think I didn't answer him there because soon the stupid ban came and I had no opportunity to preview all the comments and questions that I've got there. I can answer him here, maybe he'll read it some day, that my most important regrets are that I didn't start much earlier to self-improve (to -maxx: moneymaxx, studymaxx, gymmmax and, maybe, the right geomaxx...)

More of my answers in that poll thread about the "500 Rejections":

The idea is that a person is not just a donkey and he can ascend (up to 50%-60% of the people who're incels have chances after softmaxx like diet, gym, study, money, etc. and the worse cases - trucels - after surgery-maxx and geo-maxx).

I keep trying because now I'm better than before (lost weight, gain muscles, learned more about the people and the life, changed my character). If I was the same I could stop trying. If I became worse (for example fatter I should stop). The idea is that when you are improving yourself you have more chances, so keep trying.

AND

Even with a wife I'd like to remain a child-free person. I have the idea that only super rich people should have kids. If you're poor and can't afford the kid's education, medical security, house, car, etc., why to born a pity kid?! I'm a responsible man. If I am not rich enough, never dream of kids no matter how much I (maybe) will fall in love in the future. DON'T make unhappy kids.

AND

OK, thanks for the voting you all!

I will make it as a free e-book in that science-oriented forum. Here I will post the short stories like #1 rejection, #2 rejection in which to give you the essence of every rejection like "she said that if we date I should have a car, an apartment and own company, but I haven't because I am a poorcel so she said "OMG! If you're so poor why you don't get rich?! I don't date poor guys." and then if someone wants to read the details of the story, can continue to read in the free e-book.

I think this is the best way for everyone. I'll start it today, the staff there gave me permission to post e-book (but without concrete names or sexual details. :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:)
No worries, I am a polite man.

Broly also quoted BlkPillPres' "No, don't care." which means that he also doesn't care. (I just told him "OK. ".)

the virgin shepherd shared a video with the comment "incels.is be like" which I didn't watch, so I had no comment about it.

BlkPillPres shared a video too (with the comment "Coping Incels - "I'm gonna get me a GF one day, BELIEVE IT!"")

I told him and people like him that

It's simple: if you remain fat, poor, non-muscular, dirty, etc. you better stop. If you're getting slimmer, earning a bit more money, getting muscles, improving your hygiene, clothes, character, etc. (you're being like from 2/10 going to be a 5/10) you already mog the dad bod Normans and you can compete with most of the Normans and some of the Chadlites.

So, who improves himself has the ability to try. Who doesn't, better not to try.

UniqueUzername supported the idea that the incels should give up after many tries with ":whitepill:One hundred percent true!!"

doomed 7 asked me to post physique.

My answers to those were as follows

It's not even 50% true because he assumed that I never succeed. I told you, that;
a) I'm not a virgin, nor kissless.
b) I'm getting better recently, so it makes sense to continue.

AND

doomed 7@doomed 7 I had already some posts about it. Like this one: incels.is/threads/dont-kill-yourself-because-youre-getting-older.380222/

BarrelStuffer said that approaching is dumb and doesn’t work anymore unless you’re at least chadlite. He explained it like this: "Every foid is online now so why would she care about some guy approaching her irl when she’s getting attention from several better looking guys on apps and social media? Like would you really be bothering trying to meet girls irl or obsessing over the cute receptionist at the gym if you were getting messaged online from foids calling you handsome every day?
The only way to get laid irl anymore as a non chad is to get into an NT social circle and warm approach since then she actually knows you and you have some social proof."

I think there are some interesting points which worth to be discussed in this forum more. There I just comment, shortly, that

Yes, the Internet made the things difficult. But at least gave us the opportunity to improve ourselves more. If it was easy now would still be obese and maybe already ill. At least the efforts saved my health.

About my improvements (-maxxes):

Visual: because I REALLY GOT BETTER than BEFORE, it makes sense to keep believing I can do it:


More lifefuel from me: years ago:


, recently:

.
Before:   and now:
  .

And it's only the visual improvement. My knowledge, my income and my character (wisdom) also improved.

No time to upload photos here. Later if there are more brocels and others participating in this forum, I'll be glad to show them.

Animecel2D said, I suppose ironically, "Oh yeah? What type of success did you have…. brocel? Do go into detail about it"

yez added "It has no point. We are incels."

doomed 7 commented something about the gym -- "bro why do you go to crossfit f*ggot gyms and wear tight clothes? reject these gay stuff mate"

I strongly disagree with that. Probably I have to answer more about it if I don't forget in the answers to some incels. I know the brocel didn't mean to hurt me, just thinks it is right and helpful but he's not right.

Another comment of mine is

But most of the incels can ascend. There are so many ways to do so -- the easiest one is the go to some poor country where the locals like you more (geo-maxx). It's not 100% no chance.

There is even a theory (something like a definition) which states that the incels can ascend the truecels can't ascend. Well, I think so, most of the incels are very able to ascend.

Here was an attempt to explain them what is the real meaning of the word "incel":

No doxxing.


Just remember that incel = involuntarily celibate. NOT every incel is virgin. Here some even share how many prostitutes they had sex with (escortcels).

I don't use prostitutes. But also I'm not a virgin or a kissless. Just already around 10 years I can't find a single person to like me (2 "landwhales" are an exception).

REMEMBER: the Donnelly study, defined incels as all adults who fail to find a sexual partner for six months or more (Source: incels.wiki/w/Main_Page)

UniqueUzername said that I am  wasting your time on retard b!tches. And "Accept the reality and invest your time in doing something better."

kaang asked to tell them some success stories first.

The Grinch asked me why didn’t I stop trying after the first 100 rejections.

RuudVanNistelrooy comment "You seem like you're trolling, something off about your writing style. Since you already admit that you are no civ virgin i assume that you're a failed normie."

My answers:

Not exactly. I gymmaxx but I also study science, languages... watch some movies, try more ways to earn money... read some e-books.

I lead a meaningful life.

AND

"tell us some success stories first, brocel."

OK. My first kiss was with a virgin Turkish girl (when I was around 22 years old). She was my FIRST girlfriend, I was her number 3 or 4... She was 14 that time. We never had sex. We broke up because she tried to go to disco club without me to meet other guys and to flirt there. Her aunt helped me to realize the truth.

Later I had to report her to the police too because she tried to blackmail me.

AND

"Why didn’t you stop trying after the first 100?"

because that time I met 2 honest girls who said: "You're ugly. That's why you can't. Lose weight! Build some muscles!"

And they helped me to improve myself to this level. Now at least 2 landwhales so far said they like me, but I can't with them... and now I can have some chats but they ghost me and never agree to date. Still not good enough for them.

AND

"You seem like you're trolling"

Boy, I swear to my death mom's grave that I am a nearly 50 years old uncle (who manages to keep his bio age low with sport and diets) , SO for a grown man like me trolling young boys like you is a SHAME.

I want only to help you and to learn something from you. I like to chat with young people like you who have the same problem as me. And also I do practice my English because it's my main income (teaching English) as a poor man without own company.

UniqueUzername wanted to talk to me. I answered him "This forum has private messages. Just send me one or if you can't I will send you, bro." He said that he tried - "I tried to pm you but it says-

"
Yikes! Something went wrong. Lets unpack this.
You cannot start a private conversation with Poorbaldshortcel.""

I told him "I also got this error. Maybe the forum is too busy. I'll try to reach you, brocel."

Then he: "Now got this....:feelsbadman:

"General chit-chat
The place where you can chat about everything.
You don't have the permission to join this room.""

And I suggested him to come to this Omnilogy forum (which still was without incel board. it was incelless  )

Well, then go to Omnilogy forum register there and search for me (my nickname there is "Incel"). I'm there now to write my free e-book about the 500 rejections.

And, at the end, I thanked them (

THANK YOU ALL for the votes and opinions! I started it:...

)

There were some aggressive comments which I'm going to answer in the right place mentioned above. You know already where do I answer the bad incels (some of the incels are bad, it's a fact). So, don't want to waste my time and your time in this more important thread about the incel e-book "500 Rejections".

IncelHeII said "nah bruh just sum it up, reject you for height or looks? Or maybe you didn't have confidence and they did not like the "way you carried yourself"?"

And I sum it up like this:

"reject you for height or looks? "

- height

- hair

- money (why no money? :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha: )

- age

- nationality (why no from USA? I LIKE ONLY AMERICANS! :feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman: )

- personality ("Too honest, can't lie.")

- race ("I date only Chinese and Koreans. No Westerners!")

- religion (HOW YOU DARE TO BELIEVE IN SCIENCE? NOT IN GOD! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! You godless piece of scientist :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:)

- family story (you're motherless, huh? I need someone with a good family.)

- and some more (like: ALL the westerners are with AIDS! I AM AFRAID!!! :feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman:)

Some of the rest (mine) (One of them was the answer to TheGambler2, who said "absolute state of .is :feelsseriously::society:" (he means that most of the incels there are not necessarily kissless, virgins, kissless virgins, etc.) AND "compete for what?? blown out 1000 body count 30+ roastoids? :feelsgah::society:"):

OK, for those who are low IQcels and can't get the definition of INCEL, I created a special topic with simple examples: ...

AND

"compete for what?"


This is a good question (philosophical). I answer: Free will. Everyone decided does it make sense to compete or not. Sometimes maybe it is not worthy. Then, just geomaxx to a place with a bit better females.

That was how it started. And here is a link to the 500 Rejections. The first ever incel oriented free e-book about the rejections.

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Psychology / Rejections #3

« on: July 18, 2022, 02:36:07 AM »

Rejection #3

It's one of my first rejection abroad. One of the first university student females that talked with me in a train.

She was traveling with her brother and her family. She was very interested to talk to me and we had long conversation with her and from time to time with her and her brother. She looked very pretty, nice and honest. We talked about the different cities, her major, language questions and so on. At one point I asked her "Do you have a boy-friend?" and she said "No, I haven't." I believed her and even started to hope that she might be my future (soon to be) girlfriend.

Even I started to work in another city, I kept the hope that something will happen between us. I sent her emails, she answered but in one of the emails she said that she lied me about the boyfriend; in fact she had and has a boyfriend. I felt very, very sad and I felt so unhappy and betrayed. After that I stopped to write to her.

Years later, I decided to search her again. I found her and, as I expected, she was already married. We had some neutral chats and, of course, nothing more happened. She is still in my contacts but we didn't chat for a long time.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Incels.is doesn't keep their own terms and definitions

« on: July 18, 2022, 02:15:14 AM »

The incel.is's terms are a joke to their moderators. You already know from some of my previous posts here that they failed to keep their wiki's definition of "incel" (if you didn't, read in how this incels forum started).

Now I'd like to add that they (incel.is moderator staff) even don't keep their own terms. In their incels.is/help/terms/ they typed (or just copied from somewhere) that

You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws whatsoever.

  What a joke, isn't it?

A fast checking:
1. No hateful content?
There are threads like "This cuck f*ggot from Quora doing something worse than abortion" and "To all low IQ lurking pieces of sh*t here: learn the f*cking difference".

So peaceful and friendly, isn't it? 

2. No abusive content?

 Look at this "mother-friendly"  thread "My stupid mother keeps talking" where the person said that "I'd kill her given a chance."

3. No threatening content.

 Like this: "next fag parade needs to be shot up ( in real life)"? Not threatening at all. 

4. No adult content?

 Oh, sure!  No need of examples because it's full there of exactly this kind of content!

5. No likely to offend content?

 Oh yeah!  For example, "Mothers should f... their sons if they're virgin at 14"

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I don't want to comment anymore. Most of the threads there are totally against their own terms.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: How to register in this forum

« on: July 17, 2022, 06:11:47 AM »

Useful indeed! To be sticked!

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / What do you expect from this new incels forum

« on: July 17, 2022, 05:50:42 AM »

What do you expect from this new incels forum?

I'll tell you later what are my expectations. What about yours?

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: How everything started?

« on: July 17, 2022, 05:34:31 AM »

I'd like to add more here. Incels.is is banning many people. Some of them doesn't deserve to be banned.

I was banned because one moderator there (which is probably just a teenager who doesn't understand the definition of the "incel" and is too shortsighted to see (realize, understand) that banning many people is bringing just more enemies and/or more competitors) decided so based on my thread about the Donnelly study (there I saw his ban message which is

100% - Permaban not incel

)

So, here it is, you decide what's wrong with it (or, better to say, what's wrong with that moderator):

I started with this post:

"Some brocels think that incel = only the kissless virgins. :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:
AT THE SAME TIME they don't mind the escorcels who share here how many prostitutes they f*...

I am something in between: I DO NOT use prostitutes but as a nearly 50 years old man I am NOT a kissless or virgin incel.

Just remember that incel = involuntarily celibate. NOT every incel is virgin. Just already around 10 years I can't find a single person to like me (those 2 "landwhales" are an exception).

REMEMBER: the Donnelly study, defined incels as all adults who fail to find a sexual partner for six months or more (Source: https://incels.wiki/w/Main_Page)

(As far as this Wiki is associated with this forum, I think this is the position of the owner of the forum too.)"

(I'm not a sizeist and I am against the discrimination. I use the word "landwhale" as a popular, joking word that describes the very obese people. Also I wanted to make myself there more clear because they audience seems to be youngcels and younger incels.)

One brocel (nickname "Lv99_BixNood") comment with two Chad emoticons and a ban hammer (banhammer) emoticon.

I reacted to this with

@
Lv99_BixNoodLv99_BixNood, how THE HELL, I am a Chad, when I am:​

- short
- bald
- poor
- old
- loveless ?

Improve your knowledge, bro. A low-tier gymcel as me is NOT a Chad.

Another brocel (nickname: decembrist_kirillov) comment that "what i know is: escortcels are not same as other incels. they are not incel at all." (It's something that I do think -- they're "not very incels", they're nearcels.)

Third brocel (nickname: Mecoja) comment that Bby this definition 90 percent of men are incels and 100 percent of teens and old guys also and asked me "Did they liked you ten years ago? :what:"


Fourth one (brocel with nickname "Monke") gave a good comment which was "Khhv superiority :feelsBox:"

The fifth one (brocel nicknamed "SoloAlex") comment that he agrees with me but six months is a joke. 10+ years is appropriate.

Another my comment was

Well, I also think that escortcels are nearcels (at least they have MONEY and they have SOME KiND OF FAKE SEX)... but still, nobody here think they're fakecels... At the same time some bitter brocels complain that if you have had a kiss or some success with a non-prostitute, you're a Chad.:feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:

Just follow the SCIENTIFIC "INCEL" definition: the Donnelly study, defined incels as all adults who fail to find a sexual partner for six months or more (Source: https://incels.wiki/w/Main_Page)

SoloAlex added that he thinks that that brocel with the 2 Chads and the ban hammer emoticons just made a joke.

(I answered this:

I hope so.

I swear again that if I really find one women who loves me and I love her, I will be 99% with her and I am not going to lie the incels here that I'm a loner. The problem is that I am still not good enough and they ghost me or ignore me after a short chat.

)

A brocel (nickname: I.N.C.E.L.S. Boss) laughed about "six months" in that definition.

I answered that

Well, okay, let's say that 6 months is kind of short. But really, if an adult (not some acne teen who later is going to become a Norman or a Chad) can't find a women in 1 year (even after he tries almost everyday), than he should be considered as an incel. For example, if you try once a week, in a year, this makes 52 rejections. Pretty good number to be considered as an incel.

Acnecels if they're still teenagers can't be perceived as 100% truecels too because after the puberty most of them will be never acnecels again. I don't post this as a gate-keeping. Just want to give them a real and based hope.

I.N.C.E.L.S. Boss asked me "wtf are u doing here then" (because of my statement that "I am NOT a kissless or virgin incel.") I repeated for people like him that

The low IQcels can't get it! ONCE AGAIN:


NOT ONLY KISSLESS AND VIRGINS ARE INCELS.

The category incel is BROADER than "a virgin".

HERE:


(reposted the intro post; ppl like him really don't read carefully or even when they read they can't understand well the meaning of the tsxts.)

SoloAlex added that if you try almost every day irl, inceldom is not your biggest problem.

Lv99_BixNood added that if one "got laid without paying before you're a low tier normie." He thinks that it's not unusual for lowtier normies to not get s. activity for years.

Answered him with:

Normie?
- OLD
- BALD
- SHORT
- POOR
- Low-tier gymcel


I work hard but I still can't get the Norman's level. I just mog the fat Normans but most of the tall ones still have more chance than me. So how I am a normie?

Follow the SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION: incel = "no true sex and no true love FOR A LONG TIME".

Remember INCEL is not only the kissless virgins. It a broader category.

I added this too:

For the lowest IQ brocels;

"Animal" is not only "a rabbit". "Animal" = "rabbit + turtle + tiger + panda + fly..."


"Country" is not only "USA". "Country" = "USA + Russia + India + Canada + China + Japan..."

"Incel" is not only "kissless virgins". "Incel" = "virgins, non-virgin husbandcels, non-virgin escorcels, divorced men who didn't have sex for a long time, failed Normans and Chads who became landwhales or extremely poor".

Lack of elementary logic?

Lv99_BixNood send 3 lul emoticons (luls; lulz) about the word "husbandcels". I saw he doesn't know it. So, I educated brocels like him with

Oh, you didn't know some husbands are sexless? Here:

incels.wiki
Deadbedroomer

I also asked them "Maybe 90% of the men are incels or nearcels. If you are a grown men and have to masturbate alone for YEARS, aren't you an incel?"

And a brocel (nickname: kaang) comment with "once a sex haver always a sex haver."

I told him and those who may think like him that

This definition limits the incels only to virgins.

Let me give you an understandable example with the Islam:

There are different Islamic countries: Turkey, Iran, Pakistan... but if you say Islam = only Turkey, you're limiting the Islam only to one of its domains.

Ex-sex havers are incels too.

If it's still difficult for some of you I can give you another example -- two homeless people. One was homeless forever the other lost his house recently. They're both homeless.

A brocel nicknamed "the virgin shepherd" asked me a private question "Are you older than Emba@Emba ?" and I answered that

How old is that brocel? I don't know him.
(I keep the non-doxx rules and I don't speak concretely date of birth, but I don't lie you -- I'm close to 50 y. o.)

I realized that no matter how well you keep the rules in Incels.is there is no guarantee that they're not going to ban you. A lot of not reasonable bans there.

A brocel with nickname "Ehwhatever" comment that "Frankly, the definition a single researcher isn't relevant to whether or not non-virgins who've had voluntary sex should be allowed. That's what this site and/or it's creators (not sure) decided. Voluntary sex is a no no.

Don't get me wrong I agree that some non-virgins, like those who actually lucked out or haven't had sex in decades, should be allowed. I think in some ways you'd be a beneficial user for the site but I guess you'll have to see if the mods like you enough to let voluntary sex slide."

My following 2 comments were:

Of course everything depends on the definition. There are ONLY A FEW INCELOLOGISTS around the world. The incelology is still a baby science.

But, the common sense, tells me that you can't exclude males who do masturbate ALONE for 5-10 years and to say "Long time ago they had sex 2 or 4 times. They're not virgins. So they are single and do masturbate in loneliness, but they're not incels."

It's like homeless.

SOME homeless people were born homeless. BUT MOST of the homeless had home before. If you exclude the ex-home homeless you're killing them. The same with the incels. If you want 100% of the incels to be included, then don't limit them only to "virgin = incel".

If you exclude incels, I think you have to start with the rich escortcels who have some sort of sex... they're the most nearcels.

A failed Norman who masturbates alone for decades is a non-cel? No way.


PLUS


I know the kissless virgins do think they're "the most incel" and they jealous if some incel 25 years ago had a kiss. But this doesn't make him a non-cel if he has to sleep alone, to masturbate like a teen alone and to think "Am I such a big loser, why no women likes me?"


I also envy the richcels who can at least afford some paid love (even I am not a fan of the prostitution because it's sort of fake and surrogate sex), but... I never ever wanted these pity souls to be kicked off.

I hope all the brocels could support each other no matter that some of us are more lucky than others. We just CAN'T say "Only virgins here".

If this continues like this, well, someone else may create a more liberal Incels' forum where even the nearcels can post... and then what's the benefit for this community?

And I was like a prophet.  We here really created a more liberal incels' forum where even the nearcels can post. Of course we can't allow the abnormal things like rape propagandas, murdering propagandas and so on. That's why we're not 100% liberal. It's impossible.

A brocel with nick "Broly" asked "Only 6 months?" to which I answered him that

Depends on how many you meet in these 6 months. I think so: if every day you try with 1 fem. and you failed, it makes 182-183 rejections for the 6 months. If 100+ women rejected you then YOU = INCEL. Isn't it?

Another brocel (nick: "IncelHeII") said angrily that we don't need to pay attention to the "doncucklly study"  (how creative!) and asked "how bout that. Foids could solve the incel problem but they rather get pump n dumped and wait for rich chad". Honestly, it's a very interesting topic and in the future we may discuss that thing that is known as "s. charity" online.

Some "Balding Subhuman" comment that it's "Inceltear seething"...

...

And the rest was:

ugly_genius: "lol @ "6 months or more"... :feelsohh:

Then again, I guess most people (even a lot of reasonably ok 'incels') couldn't begin to fathom the exponential rate of decay once the time frame extends way beyond just "6 months". I'd like to see Donnely et al try a study on those who have had absolutely zero female contact - not even hugs or hands - (outside of obvious family hellos and byes). For anything upward of 15 years minimum.

If they were able to collect a big enough sample size, I bet the results would be horrific.

I'm living proof closing in on 40 and absolute zilch. The results are actual physical anatomical deterioration and damage. And on par with cancer.

The mind/soul is a precious thing. Guard it. Treasure any relationships you've ever had the chance to have, no matter how small they may be.

There's a lot of things humans take for granted and don't realize what the implications would be if they were removed."

Me:

Well, I only want all the incel bros to be included because the life for every incel is harsh, no matter what was your past, if you NOW have no love, you're a half man...

mechashota: "i think this forum is wayyyy to up their own asses about what constitutes a fakecel , but arguing that you can have sex and be an incel is interesting to say the least" (I also think that many of the incel.is moderators and users have no good idea what really "incel" is.)

The brocel turbosperg said: "31% of 18-22 males in the USA haven't had sex in the previous year.

Some are virgins, but many had sex more than 12 months ago. They are incels too.

Just like someone who is jobless for 6 months is a fucked-up jobless, even if they've had a gig 6 months ago by some luck of life."

I answered him

@turbospergturbosperg very good example, brocel! This is what I am trying to tell them.

I added about the other one:

"can have sex and be an incel"

Only the escortcels can have it. Otherwise, even many of the husbandcels can't receive sex from their wives (who cheat on them or are just really frigid.)

After these - Lux: (I'll edit the most sensitive words) "An incel is a virgin guy or guy that did not had a sexual contact involving his p. or the c. of a female. Does not have to be KHHV, but HAS to be VIRGIN."

Indari: "autistic gatekeeping definitions are autistic, yet normgroids will use the malleability of the definition to portray inklers in the worst light always"

Emba: "Six months is a gdmf dry spell!

I know Normie's with that amount of time between gfs!

only If you measure it in decades do you get realcels! ButbA few years? It's only technically incel! But IRL that's pretty common too! And not incel...

As far as time period for legit inceldom, I say 1+ or maybe 2 decades! Depends on age.

A drunk one night stand should count! (Since subconsciously she accepted you! Unless it was rape...)

And raping you're sister doesn't count!
(Does rape count? "Asking for a fren" lol!)

I think I still qualify as legit incel, because I count whores as voluntary sex! And it's been 2+ decades!

Too bad this idiot could not be more PC! Ic? Rules? Read them!"

I don't understand who is the "idiot" in question. Hope it's not me because I'm too educated to be called so. If someday Emba come here, I'll be glad he to explain what he meant!

[Common and well-known non-incel slang words which are offensive too]

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / What words to avoid here

« on: July 17, 2022, 04:35:14 AM »

The words that we, the normal incels and the normal netizens, should avoid

Well, you already saw the rules, didn't you?

Let's add the words that we all, as normal incels (or other kind of normal netizens) should avoid to use.

1.

The so-called "n word" or "N word".

Well, it's a word that many people think is racist and offensive. "N" is for "nigger", which some spell like "nigga", "neggar", "negga" and so on.
 Yes, I know many black people use it between themselves and some non-black use it as a joke or as a friendly and non-racist slang. But still, better to avoid it and instead to use words like:

- boy
- man
- fellow (fella)
- bro (brother)
- guy
- colleague
- comrade
- mister
- sir
- something else which is polite and non-racist.

2.

The word "noodlewhore" (pl. "noodlewhores")

 In some incel communities there is a slang (jargon) which points to different races and/or nationalities of incels and females. Many of them are acceptable because they're not having some offensive connotation (for example many East-Asian incels are cooking rice so they're "ricecels" or "rice-cels". India is famous with its curry, so the Indian, Nepali and other incels are known as "currycels" or "curry-cels").
 OK, but when in some word there is a dirty and/or offensive part like "-whore" we should avoid it. Many impolite (or just not enough educated) incels call the East-Asian and other mongoloid women "noodlewhores" or "noodle-whores". Obviously it's offensive and misogynistic. Yes, noodles are a part of the Eastern cuisine -- from Japan to Tatarstan but you can't imply that all the Asian females are with bad sexual moral! So, if you want to call them with a slang (jargon) word, use the word "noodlefoids" or "noodlefems". As far as "foid" comes from "female human/humanoid" it may be considered as a neutral slang word, so it's okay.
The same about "currywhores" and others like "-sluts".

3.

"ER" (as a verb like "to ER them")

ER as a noun is just the abbreviation of "Elliot Roger" (a fakecel killer who made the bad popularity for all of the incels around the world and who doesn't deserve even to be noted here but there is no way because we want to avoid the problems). When some radical incels or "incels" (incel extremists, fakecel trolls, psycho incels and others) use it as a verb "to ER" it means "to kill" or "to mass kill", to "do a terrorist attack". So we can't use violence and hate speech that's why all these "ER them", "to ER", "will ER" and so on, should be banned.

4.

"Sheboon"

 A racist, offensive word which some impolite or badly educated incels, including racists, use to call the African (Black; negroid) females. It comes from baboon (a primate, a monkey) so it's not a good word. Avoid this word, please!

5.

Those "-skin" words

Well, there are some words who are not perceived as offensive amongst the incels in some communities but they sound/look racist or at least colorist (colourist). Use normal words like "white skin/pale skin", "dark skin", "yellow skin", "black skin", "brown skin", not those disgusting "shit-skin" (they use it for the darker, brownish skinned people), "cum-skin" (for the white, European, Caucasian people)...

6.

Common and well-known non-incel slang words which are offensive too

At the end, I can't think of other incel slang (jargon) related words so let's just finish it with the rest of the offensive words that everybody knows. Don't use "moron", "idiot", "retard", "autist" and so on.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / To include more incels and more other people

« on: July 17, 2022, 03:49:46 AM »

I was thinking about the escortcels. We should include as more as possible categories of incels here: fatcels, femcels, shortcels, baldcels, husbandcels... plus noncels (like Chads (handsome and successful males), Normans (average males), nearcels, researchers, females with boyfriends and husbands, feminists who want to share their thinking and views, etc.) but... the escortcels will be a sort of problem because:

1/ the adult content here is forbidden and they want to share their adult experience... they'll be banned if they do so.
2/ being an escortcel makes you already almost ascended (yes, it's not a true escaping the inceldom because the escorts are providing you surrogate s. activity but still, what "celibate" is it if you're a "s. haver'?!) To me they're something like nearcels. I wouldn't call them "fakecels" and I'm against the door keeping (I wish everyone who is good to be included but just to inform them earlier that it'll be not a good idea if they're escortcels and they share their concrete s. experience here).

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Psychology / Rejection #2

« on: July 16, 2022, 11:05:22 PM »

Rejection #2

It was late, around 10:00 p. m. Walking alone to home after a long working day. I prefer to walk, instead of all those buses, taxis, bike and so on. I have no car too. Walking gives me a way to burn some calories (of course only this is not enough to lose weight but it's like an additional help). I felt a girl (a bit younger than me, that time, it was around 2005) walking behind me. Soon she started to walk next to me. I felt she is interested to have some chat with me. We said "Hi" to each other. Later we exchanged our e-mails.

After some e-mails we had a date. The date was simple, in a local Mc Donald's. I paid a hamburger for her and a soft drink. We talked and she said she'll call me again.

I was glad. Even started to prepare some topics for our next date. Started to think where to take her next time. What clothes to wear. I was much naive that time and I believed that if a person say "I will call you again and we'll meet again." it's 100% true. Later I realized that many people like her don't care about honesty. She never call me again, never sent a single e-mail again. I was totally ghosted and rejected!

Months later I met her in the chat (we used mIRC that time). She said nothing about her dishonest behavior. The same nothing happened. Instead she tried to introduce me some uglier friend of her (probably a girl who nobody wants to date). I didn't mind to date an uglier girl because I'm not so into the looks. I value things beyond the looks (like hygiene, honesty, education, same hobbies and so on) but I was so disappointed that I refused to meet her and her uglier female friend. I even told her something like

"Don't bother me please! I have a girlfriend now. Probably going to get married soon."

Her answer was highly impudent like: "Oh, yeah? Then may we (me and my friend) meet you both and to join your wedding."

I deleted this person and never ever wanted to chat with her again.

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Social network | SEO - Social network / Can we start a new incels forum to compete with that discriminative Incels.is?

« on: July 16, 2022, 03:47:44 AM »

How about a new incel forum to compete with that discriminative Incels.is?

The problem: there is that incels.is which is very discriminative towards different groups of incels. They ban people arbitrarily too. They don't care about the aggression either. We need a clean, scientific and good incel oriented community where even the females are able to democratically express their point of view.


Some recent info from there:

I sent this to the admins here. You may resent it to the brocels who as about me;
Caesercel ban me for nothing and created a new competitor for this forum

Caesercel ban me for nothing and created a new competitor for this forum.
Not going to ask for unban because I'm a 50 y. o. person with dignity.
Just to inform you that I'm going to create my own forum/community for incels and you're having a new competitor because of your "good" moderators.

My messages to that mod Caesercel:

I'm bald old poor short gymcel. No gf, no love, nothing. But you decided to ban me. OK. Soon I'll create my own forum about the incels where we'll have more scientific understanding about the matter and we'll be your competitors.

Just letting you know. Don't ask for un-ban. I'll never post here again. As a 50 y. o. uncle I have some dignity and not going to beg boys for anything.

Bye and be healthy!

Because the pity man has no arguments he only said "Thx" and then I informed him what I sent to their administration:

This I sent to the Administration of this forum:

"
Caesercel ban me for nothing and created a new competitor for this forum.
Not going to ask for unban because I'm a 50 y. o. person with dignity.
Just to inform you that I'm going to create my own forum/community for incels and you're having a new competitor because of your "good" moderators.
"

You're welcome!

My last post there:

Brocels, it was a pleasure to be with you. BUT some moderator decided that I'm not an incel. Well, as a almost 50 years old bald poor and short gymcel I think it's not right but there is nothing I can do. You know where you can find me.

In the future, if I have more free time, I will create a more free and liberal INCEL forum where all kind of incels will gather together. This forum obviously has no future with these TONS OF bans for nothing.

Not going to post here anymore even they unban me. I have some dignity. I'll be glad to become a competitor of this forum with my own incels forum!

To which some low IQ guy nicknamed "The Enforcer" comment with "I wish you and your 6 other sex haver members luck :feelshaha: I don't think we'll notice the competition though. Consider making a group chat on discord instead."

Stupid, isn't it? First he has no idea how many members we have got here. Second, he has no idea who is incel and who is "sex haver". He don't believe the competition will be strong enough. Well, we'll do our best, at least me. Right?

A brocel invited me to his websites:

You can join my site

But I said to him

Ah, thanks! The problem is I am in China and not every website is working here. I'll try.
So, is it ***.su and ***.club ?

He answered

Yes bro, you can use a vpn for ***.su

Me:

I sent this to the admins here. You may resent it to the brocels who as about me;
Caesercel ban me for nothing and created a new competitor for this forum

Caesercel ban me for nothing and created a new competitor for this forum.
Not going to ask for unban because I'm a 50 y. o. person with dignity.
Just to inform you that I'm going to create my own forum/community for incels and you're having a new competitor because of your "good" moderators.

And also me:

Too poor for VPN, bro. Can't find a good free VPN for my old Windows XP computer.

The brocel:

How will you make a competitor site? My *** site costs almost 30 dollars a month to keep it running, and every year you have to pay the xenforo software license. I don't think China bans n c u though.

Me:

I don't know. At least I'll convince the Omnilogy forum to make me a mod with own Incels section there. I am just not leaving this without a decent answer. They ban me = I do make a compete content online.

Thanks for reading! I still don't understand why this stupid moderator decided that I am a "sex haver" or not incel... but we can't expect much of these people. I suppose they're 11-15 y. o. guys who still don't make difference what is good and what is bad for their forum. To ban so many users and to kill such a great potential shows a low IQ.

So, who is with me?

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Psychology / "500 Rejections"

« on: July 15, 2022, 07:24:08 PM »

500 Rejections

by Poor Bald Short Gymcel

"The First Ever Incel Oriented Free E-book"

 To the brocels (incels who I feel like my "fate brothers") who really want to get some experience. As an older incel I got some to share. This is helpful for the young incels and for the incelologist and other scientists who're going to make efforts in the future to help the society to solve the problem called "inceldom".

REJECTION #1

I met a girl in the bus. She was something like 26 years old. I told her to add my chat if she wants. And later she really did it. We chatted for a few days or a week. Then I asked her if she has a boy-friends. She answered negatively and then I asked her if she would like to meet me. She said "Yes but with one condition." I asked her what's that condition and her answer was like: "Well, I have a rule that I follow 100% with all of the males who like me. The rule is simple: we start to date but the first 6 months there will be no sexual activity, no kiss and even no hugging."

My immediate answer was: "Agree! But I also have got one condition. During these 6 months I don't invite you to cinemas, dinners, travel spots, etc. We only go to run in the park, to sit in a garden or to walk on the main streets. Is it okay?"

The answer was: "NO! IT IS NOT! IF YOU'RE COUNTING YOUR SPENDINGS SO MUCH, THEN I AM NOT DATING SUCH A STINGY MAN!"

Later I tried to explain her that only stupid guys will spend tons of money in half a year for nothing. She even can't promise that she will become a real girl-friend (which means at least some intimacy like a hug or a kiss) after that period. What if she's just using these guys to pay her bills? And what if she already has another boyfriend?

I am proud I didn't fall for this!

To be continued...

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Social network | SEO - Social network / Re: Not every incel is a bad person. Answers to the incels who are behaving badly

« on: July 14, 2022, 02:20:46 AM »

Right now one more - terrible advocating of the murders from nystagmuscel:

Kills non incel: deserved
Kills incel: freed from suffering.
Literally no such thing as a bad murder

My answer to this insanity was common: Seems here some brocels really don't think about their future and may end up with criminal records or in the jail. I don't want to answer in this thread anymore. If you need to know my further opinion, you know where to read it.

I really wonder if these kids, teens and young men who type these terroristic, anti-human and criminal posts are serious or just trolls. Exactly these opinions who advocate murders and other aggression are making the incels one of the most pity people in the world. Because on top of their loveless life they have to suffer labeling like that "Some incels said the murder is right, so all of the incels are trash!"

I wish there was some incel society where the hate, aggression and other anti-social speech and deeds are banned.

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Social network | SEO - Social network / To the abnormal incels who like Elliot Roger and like his crimes

« on: July 14, 2022, 02:00:28 AM »

To the abnormal incels (retardcels, idiotcels) who like Elliot Roger and like his crimes.

Maybe you'll not believe it but there are some idiots, retards, psychos, who like killers like Elliot Roger (the fakecel) and support his crimes. Maybe some of them are just trolls, you never know online.

The Grinch said that the victims were "bluepilled incels in denial, like the bunch of Reddit cucks" so he don’t feel bad for them.

I answered him:

I see your point. But I still think that soon some psycho like him can kill me or you, or people who we value. And the INCELS only get bad reputation. Then the police, the politics, etc. may imply more pressure on us. And then we're already 100% discriminated. And why?! Because the rich good-looking hapa Roger (who could have 1000 girlfriends in every Asian country and in most of the East European countries, and in Africa, in Latin America) had ill brain.:feelsbadman:

Eschewcel said that Elliot Roger (ER) "did them a favor."


I tried to explain him in a friendly manner

bro, maybe they could ascend via studymaxx or SEAmaxx. I prefer people to decide by themselves when they want to die.​

Zer0/∞ said something similarly shocking "They were NTs, they deserved to die anyway."

My answer was that the only people who deserve to die are those who never deserved to be born. I hate it someone to decide for others who deserves to die and who deserves to live.

BlkPillPres said something really crazy but to understand what exactly he's saying I have to show you the context:

My topic is anti-Elliot Roger. It said "An incel who kills brocels is not a saint" and my points are:
Here is why do I think that ER is not okay to be accepted as "saint" or "role model". He even killed guys who are obviously incels. (In fact, to be a mass killer is not good at all and only sick minds can like these guys. Like those crazy females who adore the killers in the jails!)

1. Mogs most of the incels facially.
2. Could be considered as a prettyboy in China, Korea, Japan, etc. where they adore the hybrids (white-yellow) men and women.
3. Richer than most of the incels.
4. Most of the people who were killed are worse looking than him and many incels too.

(I suppose so according to their looks.)

Sorry for those who can think that this kind of FAKECEL may be a "saint" or to represent most of us (most of the incels are good people, not like him!)

And here comes the shocking answer of that BlkPillPres guy which I don't want to quote wholly, just some points:



"Incels in denial aren't "brocels", they are our $#@$ enemy."

I DON'T HAVE ENEMIES AMONGST THOSE PEOPLE! AND ALSO NOBODY CAN BE KILLED JUST BECAUSE "HE'S AN ENEMY." WHAT IF TOMORROW THEY ALSO DECIDE TO KILL YOU? IS IT OKAY TO TOLERATE THE VIOLENCE?






"These are the guys that would bum-rush you in an attempt to save a woman's life if you did a mass shooting."

 IS THAT WRONG TO SAVE A HUMAN LIFE?!

"You sound like the kinda retard that would do a mass shooting and let certain guys go because they "look incel", only for those same guys to disarm you and make themselves "heroes" in the media, while you go off to jail to get..."

HERE I ANSWERED THIS BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I AM STRONGLY AGAINST THE VIOLENCE AND THAT THE REAL RETARDS ARE THOSE WHO MAKE OTHERS TO DIE: WRONG. I'm against killing and against the death of innocent people. I even worry that some of the retardcels here will really go to kill more people and THEY will go off to jail to get what you said.

Only sick people advocate murders.

Every incel who kills makes bad favor to the rest of us (which are mostly normal people) because in this way NOBODY is going to pity us. They'll hate us more and more and we'll lose everything!



"I swear, naive people are just born to fail and suffer, they literally just can't help themselves."

AND TO SUPPORT KILLERS AND MASS DEATH MAKES YOU NON-NAIVE? THIS EXACTLY SHOWS LACK OF ELEMENTARY SELF-PROTECTION AND CARE ABOUT YOUR OWN FUTURE. THE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE WILL NEVER ADVOCATE CRIMINAL DEEDS. ONLY ONE CRIMINAL RECORD MAY DESTROY ALL YOUR FUTURE.

Also he tried to explain how Roger hasn't an attractive person (he thinks he was balding and his chin wasn't good enough). I THINK THAT NO MATTER HOW GOOD WERE HIS HAIR AND CHIN, AT LEAST HE WAS A 6/10 PERSON WITH POTENTIAL TO GYM-MAXX HIMSELF TO 7/10 OR 8/10. A REAL FAKECEL PSYCHOPATH. THAT WAS E.R.

Monke maid a serious logical mistake to say that if you're a pro-choice then "you can't argue that murder is wrong". The guy didn't know that exactly the murder is wrong because he doesn't leave any choice of the victims to live or to die.

aGuyAlone said "They were bluepilled cuck truecels who were living in the worst possible time for an Asian man & were tricked into becoming educated and slaving for a society that abandoned them.

ER did them a huge favor by putting them out of there misery.."
 

 Another person who thinks that someone else can decide who is "miserable" and who will live/die... What if some psychopath decides that this guy or his most beloved ones are miserable and must die? Is he going to be happy with that? Terrible thinking.

If you need a hero incels, here are the real tuecel heroes:

A. Schopenhauer , a philosopher

I. Kant, a philosopher

Not some mass killer who's even better than many of the Normans.

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Social network | SEO - Social network / Elliot Roger (the mass killer fakecel)

« on: July 13, 2022, 06:04:16 PM »

What do you think about Elliot Roger (aka ER) - the mass killer fakecel who brought bad reputation to all the incels?

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Social network | SEO - Social network / More about the bad incels and the labeling theory

« on: July 13, 2022, 05:28:58 PM »

Here comes more about the bad incels (the part of incels who are bad and even dangerous people) and the so-called labeling theory.
This theory is a sociological perspective developed in 1967 and it focuses on how humans react to others who are labeled as “different” from themselves. The labeled people might be more vulnerable to discrimination, prejudice, and other negative outcomes.

So, after this intro, let me continue with these:

A brocel (SubjectSigma) said that he's glad that I noticed this, because Labeling Theory likely applies in all of these cases: https://www.simplypsychology.org/labeling-theory.html

1. Group gets marginalized by society
2. Deprivation of social resources causes them to deteriorate
3. A few get violent in response
4. All members of marginalized group now labeled as violent, treated even worse by society because normies think it will help the situation; but this just makes the situation worse.

He thinks that "The key is not to prove the morons of society right. Defy their prophecy so our people can rise. :feelsokman:"

I answered him that

I do because I use every free minute to learn something (or to do sports). But most of the people use it to play games, to sleep more or to do something useless (and even harmful like smoking and fighting in bars), so... I don't believe that more than 20% of the ppl will understand the problem.

He answered that in time they'll understand. And that "It is hard to change mindsets but I think the first step of many is to talk with brocels and understand where they're coming from. :feelsYall:"

And something related, also from me:

I'm just against it: because of a few freaks and psychos with guns (usually fakecels like E. Roger who mog most of us visually) all the good brocels (millions of modest, humble, even educated males) to be labeled as "outsiders."

And more: InMemoriam continued that "What you mean haven't you read it already most of shooters were mentalcel, the state of inceldom itself strongly associated with mental disorders and their causations, surely ER wasn't visually impaired like most of us but that doesn't render him a fakecel
When you combine severe and mostly inherited mental disorders with bad looks and consequent situational disorders such as social anxiety disorder and persistent depressive disorder
The probability of committing self harm or an act of violence becomes a matter of time, you'll turn into ticking bomb waiting to explode."

I simply added:

OK, but this is the point: I don't want the normies to think that incels = 100% freaks = all to be banned, etc.

We have enough problems so don't need to add one more "You can't get a girl-friend? Oh, you're bad! We should put in the jail!"

Most of the people are to stupid and lazy to think "Only some incels are mentalcels. Most of them are just ugly and shy." NO WAY. The majority will make the "conclusion": "Incels = Elliot Roger = psycho killer = put them NOW in the jails!" Witch hunting is real.