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Re: Incel, incels, r/incels (incel reddit; incels reddit) -- good and bad
« Reply #165 on: July 12, 2022, 07:38:40 AM »
That! That makes sense. Yeah!
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And never forget that there are MANY other factors as: status, capital (money), character, luck, personality, concrete psychology and former experience.
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More about the bad incels and the labeling theory
« Reply #166 on: July 13, 2022, 05:28:58 PM »
Here comes more about the bad incels (the part of incels who are bad and even dangerous people) and the so-called labeling theory.
This theory is a sociological perspective developed in 1967 and it focuses on how humans react to others who are labeled as “different” from themselves. The labeled people might be more vulnerable to discrimination, prejudice, and other negative outcomes.

So, after this intro, let me continue with these:

A brocel (SubjectSigma) said that he's glad that I noticed this, because Labeling Theory likely applies in all of these cases: https://www.simplypsychology.org/labeling-theory.html

1. Group gets marginalized by society
2. Deprivation of social resources causes them to deteriorate
3. A few get violent in response
4. All members of marginalized group now labeled as violent, treated even worse by society because normies think it will help the situation; but this just makes the situation worse.

He thinks that "The key is not to prove the morons of society right. Defy their prophecy so our people can rise. :feelsokman:"

I answered him that
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I do because I use every free minute to learn something (or to do sports). But most of the people use it to play games, to sleep more or to do something useless (and even harmful like smoking and fighting in bars), so... I don't believe that more than 20% of the ppl will understand the problem.

He answered that in time they'll understand. And that "It is hard to change mindsets but I think the first step of many is to talk with brocels and understand where they're coming from. :feelsYall:"

And something related, also from me:
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I'm just against it: because of a few freaks and psychos with guns (usually fakecels like E. Roger who mog most of us visually) all the good brocels (millions of modest, humble, even educated males) to be labeled as "outsiders."

And more: InMemoriam continued that "What you mean haven't you read it already most of shooters were mentalcel, the state of inceldom itself strongly associated with mental disorders and their causations, surely ER wasn't visually impaired like most of us but that doesn't render him a fakecel
When you combine severe and mostly inherited mental disorders with bad looks and consequent situational disorders such as social anxiety disorder and persistent depressive disorder
The probability of committing self harm or an act of violence becomes a matter of time, you'll turn into ticking bomb waiting to explode."

I simply added:
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OK, but this is the point: I don't want the normies to think that incels = 100% freaks = all to be banned, etc.

We have enough problems so don't need to add one more "You can't get a girl-friend? Oh, you're bad! We should put in the jail!"

Most of the people are to stupid and lazy to think "Only some incels are mentalcels. Most of them are just ugly and shy." NO WAY. The majority will make the "conclusion": "Incels = Elliot Roger = psycho killer = put them NOW in the jails!" Witch hunting is real.
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Elliot Roger (the mass killer fakecel)
« Reply #167 on: July 13, 2022, 06:04:16 PM »
What do you think about Elliot Roger (aka ER) - the mass killer fakecel who brought bad reputation to all the incels?
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One of the serious reasons for the inceldom
« Reply #168 on: July 15, 2022, 07:36:56 PM »

One of the Serious Reasons for the Inceldom


by Geser Kurultaev (philosopher-anthropologist and incelologist)

  As long as I write these articles with the purpose to help as many as possible incels to escape the inceldom (i. e. to be able to ascend), I want to be clear (and honest) with them that there are plenty of reasons

  • Too short
  • too fat
  • too shy or worse psychological issue
  • too poor
  • too ugly (deformed)
  • too smelly (bad hygiene) AND MANY OTHERS

 This type I'll point to a very serious reason that lies outside of the incels', i. e. it's the females' fault.

 

What's that females' fault (which is a logical fault)?


 This is a logical fault (a logic fallacy) which is known as jumping to conclusions.

 A definition:
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Jumping to conclusions (officially the jumping conclusion bias, often abbreviated as JTC, and also referred to as the inference-observation confusion) is a psychological term referring to a communication obstacle where one "judge(s) or decide(s) something without having all the facts; to reach unwarranted conclusions". In other words, "when I fail to distinguish between what I observed first hand from what I have only inferred or assumed". Because it involves making decisions without having enough information to be sure that one is right, this can give rise to poor or rash decisions that often cause more harm to something than good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jumping_to_conclusions

 This fallacy is not only a female fallacy. The logic has no gender. There are many males who also can't be logical enough. Most of the people around the world aren't smart. But we're talking about the incels (involuntarily celibates) and especially the majority of them (the male incels; the female incels (femcels) are a rare case).
 And here come concrete examples from the real life when females are rejecting you just because of the Jumping to conclusions fallacy:

 "Ah, no! You're a Muslim! I can't date you because you'll make a terrorist act!" (Jumping to conclusion that "All Muslims are terrorists.")

 "A Muslim? No, thanks! I don't want to be one of your 4 wives." (Jumping to conclusion that "All Muslims are polygamic.")

 "You're from the West? I can't date you. All the Westerners are too promiscuous! You surely had many lovers and you're having now some!" (Jumping to conclusion that "Western male = Chad or Prettyboy". Many of the females don't realize that there are millions of pity incels who can't even have a simple hug with a female, including some adults who're virgins or failed Normans who had no love experience for decades.)

 "You're a poor man? Well, you'll be poor forever. I want to be a happy woman with a rich guy!" (Jumping to conclusion that "Once poor, forever poor.")

 "You are educated. I am not. The educated men cheat more than the uneducated ones. I need a person who is low educated to be only mine." (Jumping to conclusion that "Education = how to cheat.")

 "You had 4 girl-friends ago? And still not married? So, you're not a good man. Go away!" (Jumping to conclusion that "Every break up is the male's fault; The females are never wrong.")

 That's it. Simply -- sometimes it's really not the incels' fault.
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Re: Incel, incels, r/incels (incel reddit; incels reddit) -- good and bad
« Reply #169 on: July 19, 2022, 01:56:49 PM »
That is a problem which also makes the relationship betwen woman and woman hard.

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A reminder about the new Incels Forum
« Reply #170 on: July 23, 2022, 03:06:48 AM »

A reminder about the new Incels forum for the normal incels


Brocels! Are you here because you're banned in Incels.is or another forum? If so, don't forget, we have got a new forum for the normal incels: Incels Without Hate! 8) Welcome, welcome, welcome!

A direct link to the new incels forum: http://www.seo-forum-seo-luntan.com/a-forum-for-incels-who-are-normal-people-no-terrorists-no-rapists-no-racists-no-pedophiles-no-haters-and-so-on/
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Why “a state implemented girlfriend program" and other similar ideas are silly


  As we know there are some incels who strongly believe that it's their right to be loved, to have a girlfriend and to be able to reproduce themselves. Some of them have very extremist ideas like enslaving the women (and similar misogynist, inhuman ideas). Others want "only" a state implemented girlfriend program.
 Now I'd like to explain why it's a silly and a bad idea.
1. Obviously it's going to be against the concept of consent. It will be not in fair and even terrible for most of the females to be forced to become somebody's girlfriend especially when this somebody is an unknown man who is also an incel (i. e. lacking attractiveness).
 According to my personal studies and explorations, many of the incels are not going to accept a very old or a very overweight woman. So, it will be easier for them to understand the concept of consent if, for a moment, they try to imagine what if they are part of a "state implemented boyfriend program" where they have to become a boyfriend of some overweight single granny  :P.
 2. Even if, in an imaginary "ideal world", the females do agree to become doing this "girlfriend charity" and voluntarily to participate in the so-called "state implemented girlfriend program" the incels are going to have a big problem with the "distribution" of the girlfriends -- everyone (or most of them) will want to have the best girls and nobody (or most of them) will want to have the worst girls... in other words (following the incels' slang), most of the incels will want the GigaStacies and the Stacies, some part will be okay with Beckies but almost no one will be satisfied with just a femcel (female incel) girl or some 3/10 (low-tier Becky)...  And because the number of the very attractive females is less than the rest of them, there will be not enough for every incel... and it will not solve the inceldom problem but even may make it worse if leads to new waves of aggression, suicides, bloody rebellions and so on.

 Conclusion: Don't dream of these inhuman, silly and impossible methods. This will only consume your precious time and energy which you may use to maxx yourself (knowledge, bodybuilding, money, health, etc.) which brings you real chances to ascend.
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« Reply #172 on: August 13, 2022, 02:54:51 AM »

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Re: Incel, incels, r/incels (incel reddit; incels reddit) -- good and bad
« Reply #173 on: August 15, 2022, 01:48:33 AM »
I'd friendly remind the incel interested visitors to only post their incel, incels, inceldom posts in the related threads and in the incels board. It is only to avoid misunderstandings. Recently I learned there is some stupid and crazy person who took this omnilogic forum as a totally "only incels" forum and this is wrong. We made it, more than 10 years ago, with the pure idea of being an everything forum. So we hope you people will keep the posts in the right boards.

As for the incels I don't have anything against them if they are not one of those misogynists who blame the females for their fails. The normal and objectively behaving incels are all welcome and they are not the right hate target.
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Re: Incel, incels, r/incels (incel reddit; incels reddit) -- good and bad
« Reply #174 on: August 16, 2022, 12:51:05 AM »
Yeah, sure, because of one psycho female and one psycho male to limit our posts or something? ;D But it's not a problem because nobody is posting elsewhere anyway.

Just to mention it because going to answer an aggressive brocel in that topic where I usually answer them because I can't pollute the "Incels without hate" board (which is about the normal incels) with answers to some of the abnormal incels.
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