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房东不退押金

Landlord refuses to give our security deposit back


房东不退押金。(A landlord refuses to give our security deposit back.)

At first, she said she'll give it after a few days. Then we waited patiently and called her again. She said that it's greedy to ask for our deposit. Found a reason that we left the apartment moldy so she has to spend a lot of money to deal with the mold. I explained her that it's not our fault, we kept it clean as much as possible and we need the money. Still refusing, I told her that we're going to the company who helped us to rent this apartment and if the company is unable to help us, then we're going to the court! She still refuses to give the deposit back. From the company a person said he's going to connect with her and to negotiate, but then he said she's not picking up the phone. He said the mold isn't something in our control and once she accepted back the apartment's keys and agreed to give us the deposit now it's unreasonable and irresponsible to change her opinion. Another real estate agent said something similar too. Also, the one in charge, said if she's not picking up the phone these days, we should go to the court.
 
 To be continued...

起初,她说过几天后会给我们。然后我们耐心地等待,再次给她打电话。她说我们要回押金太贪心了。她说我们把房子住发霉了,所以要扣我们的押金。我向她解释这不是我们的错,是因为天气潮湿,我们尽可能地保持清洁,我们需要拿回押金。我仍然拒绝,我告诉她,我们要去帮助我们租这套公寓的公司,如果公司无法帮助我们,我们就要去法院!她仍然拒绝退还押金。该公司的一个人说他将与她联系并进行协商,但后来他说她不接电话。他说霉菌也不是我们能避免的,一旦她收回公寓钥匙就是同意给我们押金,现在改变她的观点是不合理和不负责任的。另一位房地产经纪人也说了类似的话。负责人还说,如果她最近不接电话,我们应该去法庭。

待续。。。。。。。
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 Two weeks later, they went to the house to check, and the ceilings of the living room, kitchen and another room were moldy, because they closed the windows and doors (after took the key back) and didn't take good care of this apartment. The landlord still blames us and asks us to pay for painting the wall.
 The intermediary manager (the same one from the real estate company) has been inclined that we can't get the deposit back, but promised to continue the negotiation. We explained again that when we left, only the ceiling of the bathroom was moldy, and her (landlord's) husband had seen it, including every room.

2周后他们再去房子里查看,客厅、厨房和房间的天花板也都发霉了,因为他们拿了钥匙后把窗门都关上了,没照管好。房东还是责怪我们,要我们为刷墙付钱。
中介经理已经倾向于我们不能拿回押金,但是答应会继续协商。我们再次说明了我们离开时只有卫生间的天花板发霉,并且她的老公已经看过了包括每个房间。
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海南乐有家许达彬: “家人收房肯定也算的,至少他现在的话就不承认收房了。

这业主话也确实不好讲话啊,这两天跟她沟通,也是满口脏话的,你这边的话这个不同意,只能说报警处理嘛,让警方来这边来判定吧。


The agent from that real estate company (海南 乐有家 许达彬) said that it's hard to communicate with her; she is speaking dirty words and we better go to police to let the policemen to judge this case.

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跟房东聊天的:
(The conversation with the landlord:)

我们:“1\按合同我们按合同退房,28号你老公来看了我们已经交回了钥匙,这个你还能不认拿回钥匙了?2/他看的时候并没有这样发霉,除了卫生间。你现在也不能控制这个天气的问题情况。3/合同上没有说了这个发霉的情况!!!4/你跟公司也没能好好沟通。所以周一后我们要报警,去法院。我们不会放弃!”

We: "1/ According to the contract we gave the key back to your husband. How you can deny it?" 2/ When he inspected the house there wasn't so moldy (except in the bathroom). Now you also can't control this weather related situation and it's getting more and more moldy in your apartment. 3/ In the contract there is nothing about this mold problem!!! 4/ You can't communicate well with real estate company's agent. That's why after Monday we're going to the police, to the court. We're not giving up!"
 
 她 (房东):"你们就是无赖,你住我的房子,给我整成那样,我之前拍的有照,我现在给你拍照,你不要不认帐!我给你什么样你就给我恢复原样就可以了!"

 She (the landlord): “You are scoundrels. You live in my house and make it like that. I took pictures before. I'll take pictures for you now. Don't refuse to admit it! Whatever I give you, you can restore it to its original state!”

 我:“我们已经不要听你的脏话!就去报警,去法院,等!。。。。。。 你不是好的人!”

 Me: "We don't want to listen already your insults (dirty words)! Just go to the police, to the court and so on!... You're not a good person!"

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 Now I am sure that she is not only bad, she is not normal. Today she said the police is in that apartment. When one of us went there she was there all alone. Started to accuse us for more broken and dirty things in that apartment, to use insults and to insist to give her thousands of RMB. Later she called to ask us are we going to pay her that much and to speak that more things are not working in that apartment. She is totally insane and doesn't understand the contract which clearly stipulates that once you agree to receive the keys that day and promise to give back the deposit it's over and you can't just to search for more excuses not to pay the deposit and even to press for more money! I told her that she's not a human and decided not to receive the calls anymore. The police said to go to the court. We went to the court. Now we're consulting with a lawyer.

 现在我确信她不仅很坏,而且不正常。今天她说警察就在那间公寓里。当我们中的一个人去那里时,她独自一人在那里。开始指责我们在那套公寓里有更多的破烂和肮脏的东西,侮辱她,坚持要给她几千元。后来她打电话问我们是否要付给她那么多钱,并说那套公寓里还有更多的东西不能用。她完全疯了,不理解合同中明确规定的,一旦你同意当天收到钥匙并承诺退还押金,一切就结束了,你不能只是寻找更多的借口不支付押金,甚至要求更多的钱!我告诉她她不是人类,决定不再接电话。警察说要上法庭。我们去了法庭。现在我们正在咨询律师。
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我们是按期搬离的,你派你老公来收房,我们用的电器燃气等都开过看了没问题,其它的他自己可以看,我们问了确定没其它问题才交回钥匙水电卡离开。

至于你后来说你老公不细心不管事,那是你的责任告诉他要检查哪里看什么,并且在房里他和你有通话,从厅里到一个房间再到另一个房间,你甚至都可以叫他视频给你看,我也以为你在通话里说了要怎么检查。我并不知道你老公是什么样的人,你的家人来收钥匙,他说没问题了明天可以退押金,那我就认为已经交回完毕。后来房里变成什么样跟我们没有关系,后来门窗全部关闭也是你老公关的。

墙体发霉基本上是因为天气的原因。我们就是正常居住有关门窗也有开门窗通风,但是我们不是专家,不知道开多久关多久才合适。它开始霉我们擦也擦不掉,不可能故意损坏你的房子。你6月份来的时候是你自己告诉我们房子潮已经刷了一次。刷过的墙上还可以看到隐约的霉印,就夏天它也潮墙上有虫子我们每天用纸巾搞。我们用的时候卫生间洗手盆边上就已经发黑,用钢丝球都擦不掉。我们还担心影响健康呢。

交回完毕我问押金是很正常的,不是你说的什么抠和小气。因为你的原因没给我水电卡,我们三天不能正常用电。补办新卡30元,你说转给我没转,我也没找你要。你这么有钱都抠30块。

我找中介公司经理跟你沟通协商,他说你满口脏话还让人插不上话,协商不了。15号你说警察在让我去,我只是同意在警察面前调解。警察走了你还骗我在,还要算15号交房违约了。我看你一个人在其实都应该不要进房里听你废话。你是不是觉得我好骗,想想又说燃气灶打不着了热水器也不行了,然后明天要说电视机也坏了?

自从你在微信通话里骂人,我就不想接收你的微信信息。语音通话在需要的时候我看不到聊天记录。语音转文字也不太准确,但是体谅你可能打字不方便。但是你后来打的电话我都有录音。

至于我怎么教好学生不劳你操心,肯定不会教学生像你这样满口脏话还骗人。你这么喜欢人身攻击,你们不是有装饰公司吗,自己家都不用好的材料,我能不能说,你给客户做用劣质材料坑人?


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"We are moving out on schedule. You sent your husband to collect the house, and we have checked the electrical appliances, gas, and other items that we use. He can take a look at the rest himself. After we asked and confirmed that there are no other issues, we returned the keys, electricity, and card, and left.


As for your later claim that your husband was careless and indifferent, it was your responsibility to tell him where to check and what to look at, and he had a conversation with you in the room. From the hall to one room and then to another room, you could even ask him to show you a video. I thought you mentioned how to check during the conversation. I don't know what kind of person your husband is. Your family came to collect the keys, and he said there's no problem. Tomorrow, you can refund the deposit, so I think it's already returned. It doesn't matter what happened to the house later on, but your husband also closed all the doors and windows.


The moldy walls are basically due to weather conditions. We even have doors and windows that are open and ventilated for normal living, but we are not experts and do not know how long it takes to open and close them properly. It's starting to mold and we can't even wipe it off. It's impossible to intentionally damage your house. When you came in June, you told us yourself that the house had already been painted once. You can still see faint mold marks on the brushed walls, and even in the summer, they are damp. There are insects on the walls, and we use paper towels every day. When we use it, the edge of the bathroom sink has already turned black and cannot be wiped off with a steel wire ball. We are also worried about the impact on our health.


It's normal for me to ask for the deposit after returning it. It's not like you're being stingy or stingy. Due to your reasons, we were unable to use electricity normally for three days as you did not provide me with a water and electricity card. A new card worth 30 yuan was reissued. You said you transferred it to me but I didn't ask for it. You are so wealthy that you are stinging 30 yuan.


I contacted the manager of the intermediary company to communicate and negotiate with you, but he said that you were full of foul language and people couldn't get in and negotiate. On the 15th, you said that the police were letting me go. I just agreed to mediate in front of the police. You lied to me even after the police left, and I still have to count as a breach of contract for delivery on the 15th. I think you should not go into the room alone to listen to your nonsense. Do you think I'm being deceived? Just think about it and say that the gas stove won't turn on and the water heater won't work, and then tomorrow you're going to say that the TV is also broken?


Since you cursed on WeChat calls, I don't want to receive your WeChat messages. I can't see the chat records for voice calls when needed. Voice to text conversion is not very accurate, but I understand that typing may not be convenient for you. But I have recorded all the calls you made afterwards.


As for how I can teach students well without bothering you, I will definitely not teach them to swear and deceive like you. You love personal attacks so much, don't you have a decoration company that doesn't even use good materials for your own home? Can I say that you use inferior materials to deceive customers?"
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Re: 房东不退押金。 Landlord refuses to give our security deposit back.
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2024, 01:11:00 AM »
 And, the sad end of the story: the lawyer in China said that we should pay him around the same amount of money (as the security deposit). We are not rich people and we were in hurry to leave China (because of the problems there caused by the unreasonable governance) and we just couldn't start to sue her.
 Later I will post some photos of her (that she sent to us willingly), at least to let people to know her and to avoid dealing with her because she is an impudent, abnormal and a disrespectful person!


(而且,故事的悲惨结局是:中国的律师说我们应该向他支付大约相同数额的钱(作为保证金)。 我们不是富人,我们急于离开中国(因为那里的不合理治理造成的问题),我们只是无法开始起诉她。
  稍后我会贴一些她的照片(她自愿发给我们的),至少让人们认识她,避免因为她是一个无礼、不正常、不尊重人的人而与她打交道!)
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