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Why was the Japanese army so cruel?
« on: March 19, 2024, 06:53:54 PM »
I think the Japanese army and Chineses are the best two lessons of why individualism, freedom and right matter...
AFAIK, the Japanese army was so cruel because there was no individualism in the slightest bit in Japan back then, and every soldier just blindly followed the orders and what others did, and yeah the authoritarian, populistic and patriotic ideologies were ingrained into every Japanese's mind, not to mention that the commanders of the army were very brutal to their subordinates and back then Japan was very brutal to weak men, thus Japan was very similar to nowadays China. So it is not strange for them to have been so cruel and inhumane...
I am not negating collectivism completely because the biggest contribution to nowadays Japaneses' politenesses and friendlinesses i just the collectivism. Imagine living in a place where you don't need to care about others' opinion about you... well you will def 'indulge' yourself, but individualism also matters, because without any individualism, the people in that ambience will suffer from 'The Lucifer Effect', because you will be like 'So what? My commanders tell me to do that crime and everyone else does so, so why do I need to feel guilty for what I've done?' And no freedom and right makes you not dare and inable to think independently.
The very similar phenomenon can be seen among Chineses. There are no old Chineses who feel guilty for what they did during the Cultural Revolution, and many many Chineses became as cruel as the Japanese army soldiers back then... like boiling a baby to eat, eating human meat, torturing people, and the only but the horrible difference is that, they were doing harms to their compatriots, as opposed to Japaneses doing harms to the people in other countries!

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Re: Why was the Japanese army so cruel?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2024, 03:00:45 AM »
 Not to protect Japanese army or to neglect the war crimes, but, as a pacifist, and as a person who read history of wars, I'd say that the Japanese cruelty wasn't much more than the cruelty of others like Mongols, British, Ottoman Turks, Arabs, Persians, etc. Point one and I will find historical sourced of rapes, tortures, insane behavior and so on. During the peace there are bad people who do the same or almost the same... during the war the things are getting out of control and the violence, hate, insanity, etc. is much more.
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Re: Why was the Japanese army so cruel?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2024, 05:43:30 PM »
Not to protect Japanese army or to neglect the war crimes, but, as a pacifist, and as a person who read history of wars, I'd say that the Japanese cruelty wasn't much more than the cruelty of others like Mongols, British, Ottoman Turks, Arabs, Persians, etc. Point one and I will find historical sourced of rapes, tortures, insane behavior and so on. During the peace there are bad people who do the same or almost the same... during the war the things are getting out of control and the violence, hate, insanity, etc. is much more.
Indeed. Actually the Japanese army is never the most brutal army. The CCP hyperbolizes the brutality of the Japanese army so that Chineses are persuaded that the Japanese army was surmountably brutal but actually for ex Nazi was not less brutal than it, like it sterilized european women by destorying their wombs, pouring a backet of water into the prisoners snapping their noses, infecting them with horrible germs so that they got horrible diseases as the experiments. Oh and nazis even raped sows and men. But it's totally understandable why the CCP touches on how brutal Nazi was lightly because China is not on heud with Nazi but Japan, so by overstating how brutal the Japanese army was Chineses can be like 'Oh our glorious CCP is so powerful! We are so lucky to be born in such a safe country thanks to the CCP!'

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Re: Why was the Japanese army so cruel?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2024, 10:32:53 PM »
The propaganda makes the enemy worse than if is in reality.
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Re: Why was the Japanese army so cruel?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2024, 04:00:54 AM »
As a clever person said, the very notion of creating an enemy is laughable.
This collective kind of thinking is dangerous and a way of associating opposing ideals and acts with an entire group of people. This is a form of mass coherence.
Understand that there is no such thing as an enemy only people. And people can be good or bad. When you meet an individual from an opposing group and talk about other things you will often find that we are much the same.

The psychology behind creating a common enemy and then blaming them for the problems in your groups life is immense yet simple but yet it still works time and time again.
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Re: Why was the Japanese army so cruel?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2024, 08:59:57 PM »
As a clever person said, the very notion of creating an enemy is laughable.
This collective kind of thinking is dangerous and a way of associating opposing ideals and acts with an entire group of people. This is a form of mass coherence.
Understand that there is no such thing as an enemy only people. And people can be good or bad. When you meet an individual from an opposing group and talk about other things you will often find that we are much the same.

The psychology behind creating a common enemy and then blaming them for the problems in your groups life is immense yet simple but yet it still works time and time again.
WOW it's such an unfortunate for me that you are not my classmate otherwise I would befriend you if you wanted to :P. You've really got a thoughtful and insightful soul ngl.
Yeah, creating an enemy is literally a 'totalitarianism' thing and it is quintessential of a thing that the parties like CCP would like to do, to control people as we all know ;D, because any idea that is different from the ones of those parties can pose a threat to the leaders' reignsoverity ;D, and oh and if the parties are successful in managing the countries because of the different ideas from the ones of those parties, of course they will antagonize those parties, and that's why Japan, America, and Taiwan are antagonized and slandered by the CCP. Bear in mind that in totalitarian countries the politicians would like the freedoms, the rights, and the individualism to be as less as possible because they are the very three threats to their power. ;D

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Re: Why was the Japanese army so cruel?
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2024, 09:08:49 PM »
The propaganda makes the enemy worse than if is in reality.
It's such a shame for us Chineses to be only able to indulge Xi's insane and stupid managements without being able to do anything else but just immigration... You know how skillful at brainwashing and keeping the safety of the power the leader of a totalitarian country is, and, what's the saddest is that, there are still countless Chineses who think there is nothing wrong around Xi but those who criticize him, and they believe they are living in a very good country.
It's really flabbergasting for everyone living in a free country to witness people in a country so stupid and ridiculous...
I think Japan is fixxing eyes on what is going on in China and has been alerted against the more and more endangering Chineses. I saw there are Japanese news about the sad things that happened in China, including the moribundity of the economy of China, the big bang which happened in Hebei recently.

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Re: Why was the Japanese army so cruel?
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2024, 05:01:04 AM »
In every dictatorship country is the same. People can't change it. Why only Chinese? Russian? North Koreans? Iranians? Saudis? Belorussians? This is it: stay or run if you can.

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