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Re: Incel, incels, r/incels (incel reddit; incels reddit) -- good and bad
« Reply #90 on: June 15, 2021, 02:08:38 AM »
 Well, it depends on the definition of "Chad". If a Chad means tall for sure, then of course a truecel (true incel) can't become a Chad. But becoming a gymcel (starting to do some kind of fitness or bodybuilding) will help him to improve himself. You see, it's just like an ordinary job. With an ordinary salary you can't become a billionaire, but you'll be not totally poor, homeless, etc. At least better than nothing. Atleastism, you know. :)
 And don't forget that it's not necessary to become exactly a Chad. Many of the less attractive males (for example most of the so-called "normies", i. e. the average majority of the male population) are having girl-friends and wives. So even becoming a Norman (not a Gyga Chad or a Chad) is enough in most of the cases.
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Face > body
« Reply #91 on: June 17, 2021, 02:49:20 AM »
How do you think about the popular statement "face > body"?
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Re: Incel, incels, r/incels (incel reddit; incels reddit) -- good and bad
« Reply #92 on: June 18, 2021, 02:18:01 AM »
It's "face>body" or "body<face". It's science. Studies show that ppl care like 70% about the face and only 30% about the body.

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Re: Incel, incels, r/incels (incel reddit; incels reddit) -- good and bad
« Reply #93 on: June 18, 2021, 08:33:30 PM »
Yes, yes, yes. It's mostly so. Just in some cases body may be more helpful. Like one is pretty/handsome but too fat and the other one is not that pretty/handsome but has a good body. And in this kind of case some people will choose the second one (Not that pretty/handsome + good looking body > Pretty/handsome + obese body). The obesity was just an example. There are other reasons to not have a good looking body too.
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Re: Incel, incels, r/incels (incel reddit; incels reddit) -- good and bad
« Reply #94 on: June 20, 2021, 01:59:21 AM »
 Something very important that many people, including many incels, do not keep in mind. It's that the reality (the gradation) is face > body > ugly body. Notice that body > ugly body. So, it's better to be with a pretty, attractive body than to be without it. If your face isn't attractive, than AT LEAST do your body attractive. An attractive body is more necessary for the people with ugly faces than for those with pretty faces. This is the right logic. It's the same as "a rich >a poor with job >a poor jobless". If you're poor AT LEAST you should have a job (even being a working poor) than to be jobless (which usually leads to homeless; very poor). The rich person can afford not to work but the poor should try to find a job. A handsome man (Chad) may afford not to try hard to develop his body but an unattractive man (an incel) should try his best to develop a better body. (When it comes to the topic "face and body". Of course, the bodybuilding isn't the one and only good thing that a human may use to be more attractive. There are other good and useful things like learning (knowledge), earning capital (for example, money, gold, etc.), developing skills (like singing, playing a musical instrument, martial arts, chess, etc.))
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Re: Incel, incels, r/incels (incel reddit; incels reddit) -- good and bad
« Reply #95 on: June 20, 2021, 02:34:06 AM »
Sure, a man who has never attempted to gymmaxx, whilst having the ability and finances to do so, is sometimes accused of being a fakecel (or better let's say it's a sort of a volcel).

Many betas (beta males) and incels (in this case called gymcels) attempt to hit up the gym to achieve a better physique, to "feel better about themselves" and to become more attractive to women, hoping to ascend. So, a gymcel is an incel who copes by thinking that he’ll turn into a Chad if he goes to the gym and works hard. While gaining muscle does increase your chances with women online an enormous amount in highly populated areas, many incels believe this doesn't apply outside online dating if you have a short stature, small physical frame, or less than attractive face. At the end of the day, most incels would benefit by gymcelling, especially fatcels who need to lose bodyfat to show their bone structure, or skinnycels who are just skin and bones, and could use extra muscles in their neck, shoulders and torso.

A research study in 2007 which analyzed evolutionary behavior confirmed the following:

"For both sexes, face attractiveness predicted overall attractiveness more strongly than did body attractiveness, and this difference was significant in males." /Contributions of the face and body to overall attractiveness
Authors: Marianne Peters Gillian Rhodes Leigh W. Simmons


    School of Psychology, University of Western Australia, Australia


    Centre for Evolutionary Biology, School of Animal Biology, University of Western Australia, Australia

Received 13 April 2006, Revised 11 June 2006, Accepted 17 July 2006, Available online 30 April 2007.

MS. number: 8918
/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0003347207000565

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Re: Incel, incels, r/incels (incel reddit; incels reddit) -- good and bad
« Reply #96 on: June 23, 2021, 02:06:20 AM »
 I'd like to add some important points here:
 1. The finances are a problem for many poor people. But it can't be an excuse not to do bodybuilding at home or in the parks, gardens, fields, etc. There are many other ways to build muscles (free ways) like push-up (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push-up) and pull-up (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pull-up_(exercise)) for example. You don't need a gym if you really want to get fit.
 2. "a short stature, small physical frame, or less than attractive face" -- all of these with a combination of a muscular body are a better combination than those obese and/or unattractive males (like 2/10 to 4/10) who still get girlfriends out there by some reason/reasons.
 3. It's not necessary to become a "Chad" ("Chang", "Chadpreet", "Tyrone", etc.) in order to ascend. I often see these this type of males (around 7/10 to 9/10) with average females (around 2/10 to 6/10) and at the same time many average or obese and unattractive males with prettier females (like 7/10, 8/10, 9/10...) This makes me think that the body and face are not that important how many incels think and that there are sometimes more important factors like location, good luck (like the right timing), money, characters, habits and so on. So to have a better body and a better face is useful, but not universal means.
 4. And "this difference was significant in males" is okay for the male unattractive incels because it shows exactly that there is more chance for them if they develop themselves in other fields (body, money, status, knowledge, education, better locations and so on).
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Re: Incel, incels, r/incels (incel reddit; incels reddit) -- good and bad
« Reply #97 on: June 29, 2021, 01:58:11 AM »
Perhaps the heaviest things we lift and carry are not our weights, but our feels.

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Re: Incel, incels, r/incels (incel reddit; incels reddit) -- good and bad
« Reply #98 on: June 29, 2021, 02:28:44 AM »
 This kind of sports make you even look better (when it comes to the face) because it's makes the skin healthier (thus -- prettier, better looking) and also helps in some cases to lose body fat and to show the facial bone structure (many slim faces are perceived as better looking than their obese versions). You may browse some "obese to fit" images (https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=obese+to+fit&form=HDRSC2&first=1&tsc=ImageHoverTitle) and to see exactly the changes (the facial ones) and to realize that it's, often, useful to hit the gym for the face improvement as well. So, yes, "there is no gym for your face" but the gym for your body helps (often) to get a better face too.
 And let's say that, on average, the gym (fitness, bodybuilding and many other sports) may improve your face with 10%. The right food/diet (vitamins, minerals) is able to give you at least 5% more. The well-known showers ("Just take a shower, bro!") are going to make it cleaner, healthier, more hydratated, which add at least other 5% more. So, these things are not something that should be neglected.
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About the heightcels (a.k.a. shortcels or smallcels)
« Reply #99 on: July 28, 2021, 04:00:44 AM »
 It's useful to know when it comes to heightcels (a.k.a. shortcels or smallcels) -- heightism. A shortcel (heightcel; smallcel) is someone whose placement on the inceldom spectrum can (at least partially) be attributed to being short.
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