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Non - SEO knowledge => Animals => Topic started by: И. on August 31, 2014, 09:59:17 PM
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What if we stop to eat meat and other domestic animals' products? Then these animals will get free and then? Can they survive alone in the nature?
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Yes, this is the vegan dream. But can you really imagine what may happen if this really come true -- cat, dogs, cows, pigs, camels, horses, chickens, turkeys... all set free. This is my prognosis:
1. Many of these animals will become extinct; they will just die without the humans care, because they will be even not able to find food by themselves or/and they will be an easy prey for the wild predators.
2. Some of these animals will survive and will get wild. But this is another problem, because some of them will occupy the territory, the food of the wild animals and then it's possible some of the wild ones to die, because of the lack of resources.
3. It's possible more zoonoses to occur around the world.
All this may be catastrophic for the ecology and for the health.
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Probably you'll learn some new domesticated animals. I didn't know some of them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_domesticated_animals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_domesticated_animals)
:)
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Ryan Salter, if you read here, come to discuss with me over here, don't type to me in a group where I stop my participation that my arguments make non sense. Come and prove that my arguments are bad and yours are good. I am tired of yours wishful thinking, indeed!
(And, yes, I repeated something 3 times, because some of you can't get it easy and they need repeating. ;D Now, I hope, it's clear, but maybe not, because as we can see, I left that group, but you still talk to me... Welcome here to prove your points of view, you're very welcome!)
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Jennifer J Waldorf, if you read here, please come to discuss and explain why our omnilogy forum isn't a good source?! I got master's at philosophy and I have good science and life experience. I strongly disagree with your opinion.
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Adam Stallings, if you read here, I will answer you this:
1. "substantive and direct links to topics" is exactly what I did. I create a topic and I am giving you direct link. What more?
2. It's not tattling, it's true. I am showing the truth and I want everyone to know why and because of who I left your group there. And, yes, maybe it is juvenile, if makes you to participate there. Ha-ha! ;D
Welcome to discuss here, if you wish, don't write to me there, because I left, as you can see.
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Kenzie Kei Chan Kawamura, thank you! That's right! I also don't think this post is tattling or juvenile. And it is much better to get things out in the open!
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Amy Sofia, if you read here, I'd like to tell you that you are so, so, so wrong:
1. It's not a scene, it's an informative topic, where everyone like you, will know why and because of waht/who I left there, not to wonder what's going on!
2. I haven't a real problem with that person. He is the reason to leave your vegan community, but it's not a problem. There are a lot of communities, that will pay more respect and attention than this one, so I don't feel I have a problem. Your community lost one good member, who made for you a few good, viral threads/topics full of philosophy, science and factology.
3. I don't need your help for my problems and once again you lost me, I don't feel I lost something. There are many other vegan and non-vegan communities, but only one me. :P
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Jennifer J Waldorf, if you read here, please come to discuss and explain why our omnilogy forum isn't a good source?! I got master's at philosophy and I have good science and life experience. I strongly disagree with your opinion.
Adding more: if you think that informing people what's going on respectfully is juvenile, I think that your understanding of this matter is close to zero.
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Devin Weston, you're very wrong and rude! If you read here, I will answer this:
1. Yes, I am right and I prove it well, using facts and science, not wishful thinking!
2. It's not my problem that you're wrong and that many of you are just like some religious sectarians, full of fanaticism.
3. It's not a "random @ss Chinese internet forum", it's:
a) international (4 main languages - English, Chinese, Bulgarian, Russian...)
b) omnilogical
c) aged, trusted, big forum.
4. Of course I will feel the need to leave. If I am useful for your community and your community is not useful for me, then I am leaving! So simple.
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Amy Sofia, if you read here, I'd like to tell you that you are so, so, so wrong:
1. It's not a scene, it's an informative topic, where everyone like you, will know why and because of waht/who I left there, not to wonder what's going on!
2. I haven't a real problem with that person. He is the reason to leave your vegan community, but it's not a problem. There are a lot of communities, that will pay more respect and attention than this one, so I don't feel I have a problem. Your community lost one good member, who made for you a few good, viral threads/topics full of philosophy, science and factology.
3. I don't need your help for my problems and once again you lost me, I don't feel I lost something. There are many other vegan and non-vegan communities, but only one me. :P
More:
I decided to make a new post to address to everyone, not trying make him seem like this heartless dude, but just to show you because of him I will leave your community. And it's not heartless, it's an example how he does not know the interest of the community, i.e. he is the reason one good and useful member to leave your community.
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Maureen Ram, in case you read here, read this:
1. If someone want to stop me to participate in my way, then I will not participate in any other way, because I want mutual benefit.
2. It's not an attempt to smear his character, it's an attempt to inform all of you that because of him, I am leaving. I don't care what you think about his character and I don't want to change your opinions. Think what you like.
3. Yes, ad hominem + wishful thinking is so often over there. ;D
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Anthony DeSimone, if you read here:
Exactly! You wanted me to stop participating with our forum and it means that I will stop participate at all. I am not going to participate there without any benefit for us. Bye!
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Kenzie Kei Chan Kawamura, thank you! That's right! I also don't think this post is tattling or juvenile. And it is much better to get things out in the open!
Additional:
Yes, I reply here
I left your community and because I was sure that some of you will see here, I started to reply you here! Everyone is welcome to come and to discuss with me HERE! I am not going to go back to your community anymore! But I am leaving you the chance to discuss with me here your vegan and non-vegan problems! Pretty fair!
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Maureen Ram, in case you read here, read this:
1. If someone want to stop me to participate in my way, then I will not participate in any other way, because I want mutual benefit.
2. It's not an attempt to smear his character, it's an attempt to inform all of you that because of him, I am leaving. I don't care what you think about his character and I don't want to change your opinions. Think what you like.
3. Yes, ad hominem + wishful thinking is so often over there. ;D
Additional answer: HAHAHA! Creepy! Nothing creepy! I left your community, so I use my right to answer you here! And you're welcome, if you wish to discuss over here, because I will never go there again! Clear? 8)
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All vegans are welcome! Of course, I don't think we can allow rude language here! So, if you come, please, be polite and very rational. Thanks! :-*
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Jennifer J Waldorf, if you read here, please come to discuss and explain why our omnilogy forum isn't a good source?! I got master's at philosophy and I have good science and life experience. I strongly disagree with your opinion.
Adding more: if you think that informing people what's going on respectfully is juvenile, I think that your understanding of this matter is close to zero.
New answer:
It's not "some creepy sh@t" (I can't imagine how a woman from an university can use such a rude language!). I use this place to answer you, because I do not participate any more in that group, but you NON-STOP talk to me and about me! This is not so honest, right! I think it's in fair if I have my right to answer you here (as I guess many of you're reading it!) and you can answer me here or there, I don't mind anymore!
As long as I read your posts, as more I think that you're the one who is still playing with kids' balls and you're the one who do not behave as an adult! >:(
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Maureen Ram, in case you read here, read this:
1. If someone want to stop me to participate in my way, then I will not participate in any other way, because I want mutual benefit.
2. It's not an attempt to smear his character, it's an attempt to inform all of you that because of him, I am leaving. I don't care what you think about his character and I don't want to change your opinions. Think what you like.
3. Yes, ad hominem + wishful thinking is so often over there. ;D
Additional answer: HAHAHA! Creepy! Nothing creepy! I left your community, so I use my right to answer you here! And you're welcome, if you wish to discuss over here, because I will never go there again! Clear? 8)
New answer:
1. It's not violated at all! You're using my nickname there to talk to me or about me, of course I can use your nicknames to answer you here. In fact, I just address my answers to you, because if I don't use your nickname, you will not know that I answer to you!
2. It a LIE, that you can't reply! First learn more about this forum and then speak! Everyone CAN reply, just need to register http://www.seo-forum-seo-luntan.com/register/ (http://www.seo-forum-seo-luntan.com/register/) in a minute or less! It's easy!
3. I will answer you until you stop to mention me in your community!!! I feel disturbed already!
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Maureen Ram, in case you read here, read this:
1. If someone want to stop me to participate in my way, then I will not participate in any other way, because I want mutual benefit.
2. It's not an attempt to smear his character, it's an attempt to inform all of you that because of him, I am leaving. I don't care what you think about his character and I don't want to change your opinions. Think what you like.
3. Yes, ad hominem + wishful thinking is so often over there. ;D
Additional answer: HAHAHA! Creepy! Nothing creepy! I left your community, so I use my right to answer you here! And you're welcome, if you wish to discuss over here, because I will never go there again! Clear? 8)
New answer:
1. It's not violated at all! You're using my nickname there to talk to me or about me, of course I can use your nicknames to answer you here. In fact, I just address my answers to you, because if I don't use your nickname, you will not know that I answer to you!
2. It a LIE, that you can't reply! First learn more about this forum and then speak! Everyone CAN reply, just need to register http://www.seo-forum-seo-luntan.com/register/ (http://www.seo-forum-seo-luntan.com/register/) in a minute or less! It's easy!
3. I will answer you until you stop to mention me in your community!!! I feel disturbed already!
ONCE AGAIN TO YOU AND TO EVERYONE ELSE WHO DIDN'T GET IT:
1. I can't answer you there anymore, because I left and I don't want to join again!
2. It's my right to answer you ANYWHERE, including on TV, Newspapers, Twitter, etc., as long as you're talking TO me and ABOUT me!!!
3. Juvenile is to reply there. You do not deserve my participation there! I have my honer and I will protect it!
4. It's NOT creepy! It's normal and very adequate response! Try to get it once again: I left there and I can't answer there, but I can do it here and I WILL, because you didn't stop to talk to me and about me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5. Yes, someone have deeper issue and maybe it's because of the wrong diet!
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I read something about their 'privacy' :P. Here we even don't know which group/community is it, of course the privacy is OKAY. And about the so called "names". Once they use this names publicly, they're already public. I can't find a problem if someone nicknamed Donald or Jet K. chat about me somewhere, then I write here
Donald, I disagree... Jet K., you're right...
... what privacy?! These guys are really living in some parallel universe without any legal information. Guys, take it easy!
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Chelsea Covey even started to explain what is my sex/gender... privacy? ;D No way...
Chelsea, I explained there before about that account and it's not important who is he, who is she... the important is that you're full of wishful thinking, ad hominem and restrictions, so I don't want to deal with you anymore! Am I enough clear?
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Vegans... for them you may be bad only because you eat eggs. In EU we have got happy chicken and I think it's perfectly ok to eat eggs. Happy cows -- milk. ETC.
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OK, I hope it's done (it's not weird and it's not creepy. It's just a very innovative way, but you can't get it and it's okay, because not everyone can be what we wish). I don't need you in this forum so much (to tell you the truth ;D), but I think it's in fair all of you to receive your answers here and if you still think that I'm not right, then you are welcome to join and to debate normally! My goal is to defend my name, to respect all of you with my answers and, only if you wish, to come and to debate. Otherwise -- just forget about me, because I also would like to forget about you, as well!
Good luck and best wishes!
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What?! They wanted only they to "discuss" you and they hoped that you will shut up. And when you started to answer them, the vegan sisters and brothers became scared? They wish everyone to follow them in everything... seems. ;D Just don't involve with them anymore.
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OK, stop it! If they keep silence, I will not speak about them too. IN FAIR! But if I read again something about me, the answers will be as usual!
I have my right to answer
and I have my freedom of speech!
REMEMBER: Freedom of speech and right to answer!
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On-topic, I don't think it's possible. There are millions of people who produce meat, milk products, eggs, fish and other sea products... They can't stop it and the governments will never stop it, because the economies will collapse. Now this thread is really-really useful. Enjoy! 8)
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Alyson Burton, you're wrong. If you read here, let me tell you this:
1. The forum is NOT weird, it's an omnilogical, scientific, SEO and Non-SEO forum, written in 4+ languages. If you think this is weird, it means you're not a clever person!
2. I argue with you, not with myself and the proof is that you're still answering and commenting in your vegan group. ;D I took some screenshots and I will keep them in case I have to show a proof!!!
3. No, I don't want people like you to join here, but you're welcome if you are ready to argue and debate as a normal person!
4. I use the names to address my answers. For example now I answer you here, because you comment me and our forum there. I use my right to answer and my freedom of speech!
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Debrah Armstrong, I don't think that our scientific forum, which is omnilogical and international, SEO and Non-SEO, is creepy. The creepy are your comments. You don't dare to come and to discuss here, you just can insult people's websites in that group, right?! I feel sick of people like you already!
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It's still impossible. Maybe someday when the scientists will discover a cheap artificial meat production.