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EASTERN STUFF => Eastern things => Topic started by: Aquonut on March 30, 2024, 01:17:20 PM

Title: Why did Communism result as Totalitarianism in China and other countries?
Post by: Aquonut on March 30, 2024, 01:17:20 PM

I mean Communism per se is a very good thing, but Communists are not, because they always totalitarianize a country, China for ex.

Title: Re: Why did Communism result as Totalitarianism in China and other countries?
Post by: Non-SEO on March 30, 2024, 06:48:04 PM

The traditions... Not only communism. Like the democracy. Orban in Hungary, for example is now ruling like a dictator almost...

Title: Re: Why did Communism result as Totalitarianism in China and other countries?
Post by: MSL on March 30, 2024, 06:50:30 PM

Because of the previous culture and history of the people. When the culture and history are different, there is (almost) socialism in countries like the Scandinavian ones, even without officially they call it and want to build it consciously. It just happens when the certain people have got the right culture, conscious, habits...  Now notice something important: when a country has not enough democratic history and democracy culture, the result (totalitarianism, dictatorship, etc is the same: for example Russia killed the communism, started to build capitalism and ended up as a dictatorship (neu-feudal type, like China now)...

Title: Re: Why did Communism result as Totalitarianism in China and other countries?
Post by: Aquonut on March 31, 2024, 04:12:56 PM

Quote from: MSL on March 30, 2024, 06:50:30 PM

Because of the previous culture and history of the people. When the culture and history are different, there is (almost) socialism in countries like the Scandinavian ones, even without officially they call it and want to build it consciously. It just happens when the certain people have got the right culture, conscious, habits...  Now notice something important: when a country has not enough democratic history and democracy culture, the result (totalitarianism, dictatorship, etc is the same: for example Russia killed the communism, started to build capitalism and ended up as a dictatorship (neu-feudal type, like China now)...

Yeah, you got it! For ex, Russia's Русская идея explains why Communism resulted as Totalitarianism in Russia lol. And I think China's confuciusian ideologies also explain why it also resulted as that in China.

Title: Re: Why did Communism result as Totalitarianism in China and other countries?
Post by: Nadia on March 31, 2024, 06:47:57 PM

And now in Turkey (Turkiye) is almost the same (like in China, Hungary, Russia, Sirya.)

Title: Re: Why did Communism result as Totalitarianism in China and other countries?
Post by: Nadia on April 02, 2024, 06:46:04 AM

Some Chinese do have democracy. The Chinese in Taiwan, Singapore...