Because of the Reddit bans, Voat got more new users and that's the reason they're with some chance to become a leading website, but as far as they allow abnormal people there... I'm not sure.
Some deleted there (but archived) posts of one of the abnormal ex-voaters (flussence):
"Reddits lack of code review allows an anonymous troll to get infantile insults displayed on the front page for almost a month
Nope. It looks like they're using some crowdsourced translation website for this, and then one of Reddit's own blindly imports the stuff in bulk. I can understand not even doing a cursory skim for the foreign languages, but English?
Someone put "Because its better then voat.co" (including typos) as the first random message displayed on the create-a-subreddit button, and it was shown to everyone who had their language set as Canadian English. Somehow, this stayed there for almost four weeks.
And a related comment from a voater 'dorven':
"There was one displaying the other day that said "...because you hate freedom." I thought it was just spez being an ironic assmunch, but I guess they just don't bother to do quality control. (I should have known!)"
I'm not familiar with the Reddit's codebase, but I think Reddit is a real leading website, which I can't say now for Voat (voat.co).
And another from the ex-voater "Lysergia": "So the question now is was there an influx of Canadians this past month?"
Another one from the abnormal ex-voater:
"Do you think the default subs here are going to be overrun by power users eventually?
I know quite a few people block the defaults already for various reasons. You've probably noticed that a large portion of submissions to those subverses are already made by a tiny handful of users, ones who tend to have SCP an order or two of magnitude higher than their CCP.
These types of users were the main reason for Digg's demise, and contributed heavily to Reddit's too when they started throwing their weight around toward the end. Do you think we can avoid the same fate? Or is it already too late?
Sorry if you felt targeted by the post, that's not the intent. I know you're pretty active and I don't think you're doing anything wrong.
There's a difference between people doing it for benign reasons and those who see it as a sport to maximize their imaginary internet points, but it's nearly impossible to nail down a simple mechanical definition of that difference. If it was that easy, the spam killers would have a much easier job...
Related from ex-voater "pompousjohn": "I don't think there's going to be a huge problem since there is a limit of 10 subs per user to mod. Yes default subs kind of give default mods an unfair advantage but I can't imagine we could get along without them.
As far as having higher SCP than CCP I think there's just a big vacuum for quality submissions here, even "meh" submissions that aren't just plain garbage get a lot of attention. I made a new sub last night on a spark of inspiration (v/crapperthoughts) and the intro post got more upvoats then my sub even has subscribers, which was shocking, I expected it to be completely ignored.
So, make a sub, somebody's gotta post, why not the top mod? You have to make one anyway. People respond you make more posts. You look at the scores, see what people like, make more like that, watch your sub grow, eventually if you stick to it you become a "power user" why? because you contribute stuff that does well. It's not like others can't do the same.
But you can't make 100's of subs and sit as top mod for all of them, there's a limit of 10. And no matter how powerful you are your votes don't have any more or less power than anyone else's so, it's not going to be like Digg where some votes have more weight, or like Reddit where one Mod can control a huge part of the front page.
Next from the abnormal ex-voater:
"Give username links a serif/"programming" monospace font and vary the colors according to account age, to foil impersonators
1iIl oO0 S5 mrn <== (some of) these are really hard to distinguish, especially in all-caps names.
Hopefully this makes the colors idea sound better. Instead of singling out all new users, it'd only draw attention to similar-looking names registered a long time apart.
1iIl oO0 S5 mrn"
Related from the ex-voater 'musa_acuminata': "Serif fonts use extra lines to make the difference between similar letters like I (upper case i) and l (lower case L) visible. In such a font, the former would have small horizontal lines on the top and bottom, making it immediately recognizable as an upper case 'i'. Other variations may include a tail-like figure on an O, or a diagonal line through the number 0. S might have a similar tail, or 5 might have distict hard angles.
As far as the color idea, that would most easily be implemented as new accounts appearing as, for example, red, and then fading to colors higher up the spectrum as they age. All accounts above a certain age would share a final color, such as blue."
Next from the abnormal ex-voater:
"When someone keeps reposting recently heavily downvoted spam, copy the old score to the new messages.
If they do it on their first post, or while their account's at negative CCP, autoban them without posting the comment.
This effectively caps Amalek/MH101 to a maximum of one post per signup.
That's too simple; a troll could easily post a comment like "Yes" and send it to -50. It'd have to consider banned accounts only.
Yeah, it'd have to be less of a hair-trigger than that. Combine this with something like /v/ideasforvoat/comments/423369 and I think we might have a workable system.
Next from the abnormal ex-voater:
"Do you think AskVoats sudden new direction of superficially copying everything they can from this sub is real, or only a shameless attempt to claw back mindshare?
I'll wait it out and see. I predict another shitstorm with all the other mods still there.
I'm still not entirely sure what protectvoat's real objective is, they seem to mildly hate everyone equally. But I'm going to give it and @reow both the benefit of the doubt until either royally fucks up.
Related from the ex-voater 'bmw2go11': "The latter."
The next from the abnormal guy: "Blocking a subverse doesnt prevent people from pinging you in it
The next one from the abnormal person: "Deleting ones own highest/lowest rated posts should cause an equal and opposite reaction.
This is more of a thought experiment than anything, but maybe it could be an alternative to the no-refunds deletions currently planned.
If you delete a comment, in addition to what currently happens, the system will pick a post at the opposite end of your comment spectrum and zero its vote total too (but keeping the message itself and its vote history unchanged).
In other words, deleting your posts always takes you closer to a neutral zero, and has a cost proportional to the value of your comment history. This would hopefully put a stop to casual whitewashing of post history; it'd also make life harder for the sort of people who currently abuse the site's "right to be forgotten" to get away with downvote-worthy things.
(also, getting that DDoS check page right when I click the submit button and losing the entire post is kinda annoying)
I thought I made it clear this would not delete the other message, only the votes.
I can see why this isn't a popular idea after thinking more about it; it's too complicated, both for the regular users and taxing on the server. Probably for the best that it got largely ignored."
Related from 2 ex-voaters: 'silvester' and 'Mokum':
Silvester: "And why would it do this? To what effect?
If I want to delete something, I don't want a system arbitrarily picking something else to also delete. I've deleted a post I've made in the past, not really paying attention to if it was up or down voated, but I certainly wouldn't want it to delete something else.
Mokum: "not sure if you're aware, but deleting now makes it so the CCP/SCP stays -regardless of neg. or pos."
The next from the abnormal one: "For a few minutes, my vote counts in the top bar were almost perfect
The next one from the same abnormal man: "(xpost /v/bugs) Blocking a subverse doesnt prevent people from pinging you in it
Some of the trolls have been using this tactic for the past month to flood the inboxes of those they don't like, including me and a dozen other /v/ReportSpammers volunteers. They set up proxy subverses, set the downvote limits on them impossibly high to grant themselves immunity to the consequences, then commence flooding the comments.
Now I'm not saying Voat is intentionally sheltering spammers and other forms of excrement, but they're obviously getting a free ride here as long as the higher-ups refuse to acknowledge the total shitshow this site has become. Do something about it already.
Another one from the abnormal ex-voater: "Give us options to hide new users (< X days old) entirely
I'd be grateful to not have to waste time clicking a hidden downvoted comment only to realise it's the same spam as usual...
I kinda agree. It's more intended as a last-resort mercy for the guys doing most of the work at /v/ReportSpammers and getting their inboxes flooded with hate constantly. Would be off by default."
And more here from the abnormal:
"“ Dont stare into the beam. ”"
"I still think nobody will outdo what /v/Moderatoria once had"
"I can swallow a whole 13 inch pizza in one sitting and feel no shame, only regret
Checkmate catholic atheists"
"maybe I'm too sober today
need to get shitfaced and go on a rampage."
"But you can ping many inboxes. Spread the nutbutter around
@homersimpson @amalek456 @she"
"pfft, I wasn't calling you decent."
"It was probably /u/forurbutthurt"
"ISIS is pretty much a 100% chance"
"Because even in the distant future, speech synthesis software will still suck."
"This reads like the navy seals copypasta."
"He sure is ragingly insecure about his sexuality, ain't he?"
"The ones I went to back in the day did that. Retards were present but didn't interact with the rest; they had constant supervision and were kept in separate rooms. The conspicuous ones were, anyway."
"Wow, you mean I can cause tangible, measurable bodily harm to someone purely by typing words at them through a screen? Through the power of ASCII alone I can hold someone's head underwater, maybe even poz them up the shitter?
I can finally stab people in the face over the internet?! Fuckin' sweet. Time to give SJWs the brutal murdering they deserve.
"I think I'll pass."
"I agree with your definition, but unfortunately the one that often gets used and acted upon today is a synonym for crab mentality."
"But what if the human has recessive genes and the kid is completely fish?"
"It's because statistically, more people think you're an asshole than agree with you. Try some reflection instead of looking for excuses to blame others for the deficiencies in your own shallow personality."
"I wonder if I can get banned from way over here...
HEY FPH I HAVE PANTS WITH A 48 INCH WAIST"
"You're a stuck record."
"That's an awful lot of projecting you're doing based on zero facts.
Then again, I guess you'd capitalize on the one skill you have."
"That makes you just as guilty for remaining here, no?"
"Most of your upvotes come from /v/niggers and none of them have broken three digits.
Pathetic, delusional liar."
"All I see is a whiny fascist getting his just desserts."
"If only. That'd mean they've solved the mystery of being able to launch millions of tons at escape velocity within their pocket change budget.
It'd also backfire horribly for you, because that'd mean they could afford to colonize the planet."
And a copy of a part of his post/submit history (from 2015):
"Submission history for flussence.
/u/houndsandcats mh101 account (voat.co)
submitted 17 hours ago by flussence 5 points (+5|-0) to ReportSpammers
/u/broseif mh101 account (voat.co)
submitted 1 day ago by flussence 5 points (+5|-0) to ReportSpammers
/u/eldsvard is namesquatting /v/cancer for SJW purposes, posts a bare minimum to keep it ineligible for request, ignores pleas to link to any on-topic subverse, and deletes all on-topic discussions. (self.ProtectVoat)
submitted 2 days ago by flussence -4 points (+5|-9) to ProtectVoat
/u/RagBagger has invaded /v/religionofpeace to spam, the sole mod there has been inactive one month. (voat.co)
submitted 2 days ago by flussence 5 points (+5|-0) to ReportSpammers
/v/NFLGAME, /u/kalukaka, and using *google search redirects* to post spam now (voat.co)
submitted 2 days ago by flussence 7 points (+7|-0) to ReportSpammers
/domains/todaystechnews.cf/, /v/TODAYSTECHNEWS, /u/orandsouza -- all on a single page for your convenience. (voat.co)
submitted 2 days ago by flussence 5 points (+5|-0) to ReportSpammers
7 The Certificate Authority Racket (2014, but the article is still valid today)
The Certificate Authority Racket (2014, but the article is still valid today) (tkware.info)
submitted 3 days ago by flussence 7 points (+7|-0) to AllThingsTech
/u/esita7jahan (and their alts) is still at it... (voat.co)
submitted 3 days ago by flussence 4 points (+4|-0) to ReportSpammers
History is written by the victors, and boy are you spammers some *sore* losers. (voat.co)
submitted 3 days ago by flussence 1 points (+1|-0) to bestofvoat
Besides having a few domains banned, has anything actually ever come of all this work? (self.ReportSpammers)
submitted 3 days ago by flussence 5 points (+5|-0) to ReportSpammers
REMINDER: The real subverse is at /v/realnews! (voat.co)
submitted 4 days ago by flussence 1 points (+1|-0) to freenews
REMINDER: The real subverse is at /v/PrettyGirls! (voat.co)
submitted 4 days ago by flussence 1 points (+1|-0) to prettygirl
REMINDER: The real subverse is at /v/Jokes! (voat.co)
submitted 4 days ago by flussence 1 points (+1|-0) to joke
REMINDER: The real subverse is at /v/cooking! (voat.co)
submitted 4 days ago by flussence 1 points (+1|-0) to cook
REMINDER: The real subverse is at /v/cars! (voat.co)
submitted 4 days ago by flussence 1 points (+1|-0) to car
REMINDER: The real subverse is at /v/bestof! (voat.co)
submitted 4 days ago by flussence 1 points (+1|-0) to bestofvoat
REMINDER: The real subverse is at /v/aww! (voat.co)
submitted 4 days ago by flussence 3 points (+3|-0) to Awww
REMINDER: The real subverse is at /v/vegan! (voat.co)
submitted 4 days ago by flussence 1 points (+1|-0) to vegans
Dont break middle click on image expandos (self.ideasforvoat)
submitted 5 days ago by flussence 11 points (+12|-1) to ideasforvoat
Im getting the "please wait 30 seconds" message frequently at random today, and it wont go away until I refresh the page its on and try again. (self.bugs)
submitted 6 days ago by flussence 5 points (+5|-0) to bugs
One of /v/ReportSpammers most prolific contributors /u/dannydale has left the building after being jumped on by pedophiles for calling out /u/hecho (self.ProtectVoat)
submitted 6 days ago by flussence 14 points (+18|-4) to ProtectVoat
/u/ivancho75 is donating 1% of the proceeds from his spam to autism research for every gory BDSM pic he gets PMed (self.SoapboxBanhammer)
submitted 6 days ago by flussence 17 points (+18|-1) to SoapboxBanhammer
Publish a database dump of all MH101 accounts, so we can crowdsource a more effective way to kill their spam (self.ideasforvoat)
submitted 10 days ago by flussence 17 points (+20|-3) to ideasforvoat
I have to say (self.SoapboxBanhammer)
submitted 11 days ago by flussence 10 points (+12|-2) to SoapboxBanhammer
URL shortener: tr.im (looks like multiple spammers use it) (voat.co)
submitted 11 days ago by flussence 9 points (+9|-0) to ReportSpammers
And let's finish it with some more comments of this abnormal ex-voater:
"It's fun to note that, while it does happen (frequently from targeted attacks [why do the enemies of that site have those images ready to post?]), 8chan is an order of magnitude more proactive about removing that stuff from its site than Reddit, Twitter, Tumblr, Google etc."
"Professional Redditor encounters a mirror"
"Can we get the actual Onion to do a piece satirizing Reddit now? I think it's well past ripe for one."
"Practice what you preach. Stormfront is that way -->"
"And you're just a prat."
"That's a whole lot of waffling but half of it is argued from ignorance, or flat out wrong, and the other half has no substance whatsoever."