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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Why it seems to me many short men are also 'short' in emotional intelligence?

« on: June 13, 2023, 05:45:56 AM »

Well I am not a hater of short men since I myself am a short man, and if this thread offends any short guy I am awfully sorry, but after I checked r/shortguys, Limb Lengthening Forum, and other communities for short men specifically, I found out many short men were unmatured, apathetic, extremely depressed & depressing, etc., like they have any negative characterstic of a man that you can think of. (

I am not being pretentious about how 'outstanding' I am relative to them or saying that there are no short men who are good, but it seems to me being short for a man can spin off many other negative traits. I mean, if not only are you short but your personality, your face, your emotional intelligence, etc. are not good either, does it really matter if you are tall or short anymore? I mean of course being tall benefits in dating, some occupations, and self-esteem, but shortcels are prone to overestimating the benefits of being tall. Plus if you have an incel mindset, after getting taller, your mindset is still incel and being taller can't recover your mind that has been contaminated by being short. 

The reason why shortcels are overestimating the benefits is because they are short and height is very hard to increase after your growth plates are fused, and since everything that can't be changed matters more than everything that can be changed, your desire for the former is larger than the one for the latter, and your strong desire is picturing and overestimating how good your life will be if you are not short for you. 

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Why do my eyes have obvious dark circles?

« on: June 01, 2023, 11:30:53 AM »

I was interested in how I looked like in my grad photo but I was astounded that I had obvious dark circles around my eyes but I was in high spirit when the photo was taken.

A friend of mine said the reason was that the light condition was not good.

What's your take?

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Is it sufficient to claim my face as above average?

« on: May 23, 2023, 11:03:02 PM »

I am always said to be good-looking when my face is in question
no matter be the 'rater' my relatives, my parents' friends, the pedestrians, the barber, etc.
My face was said to be qualified for being a male model except my height.
Btw my outfit and hairstyle are always terrible because I am not good at them.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Why is America so obsessed with IQ?

« on: April 24, 2023, 03:39:29 AM »

I mean it seems to me only America is using IQ tests to assess the personnels, soldiers, and placing the students by their IQs.
Even the most academically discriminating country China does not place the students by their IQs but by their grades.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Reality Check: How do you measure your height?

« on: April 22, 2023, 09:43:45 AM »

I am a deep researcher into height whereby I have learned some basic statistic knowledges, and I found out 99% of people did not know how to measure their heights accurately.
The accurate way is to face towards a wall, then cap a hard object like box, triangle, etc. on your head against the wall and then draw a line below the object, finally use a tape to measure the height as your height, or you can use an anthropometric meter to measure your height.
My results were 162cm at night by both of the ways, but sometimes my height would go down to 161.5cm idk why, but after resting for a while, my height will go back to 162cm. So, I'd say my height is 100% legit solid 162-163cm. I can see many girls who are shorter than me even in Shanghai everytime I take a stroll outside(but yeah, many girls are also significantly taller than me lol. There are many hot tall girls at the level of female model here), but on China's Internet, even 162-163cm is very short for a girl and I've known of another deep researcher like me whose height was 2cm lower than the height he measured by comparing his height to the one of the upper side of windowsill, so these can shed a light on the fact that 99% of people really do not know how to measure height and do not know about height, as well as the dishonesty.
These also explain to a great degree why people always think the height data are deflated, because of Retinal Effect, as well as their ignorances of height measurement as well as the knowledges about height, and of course they do not know about Statistics either.
I'd say, 178cm measured by this way is lowkey tall or even just tall in China, average in Europe and giant in Southeast Asia. If your height is 180+cm measured by this way but you are still thinking you are short, either be you living in Germany/the Netherlands or you are suffering from severe Cognitive Dissonance(a term misused in the incel forums). Girls will also tend to think you as 180+cm and by wearing an insole, your height will even be perceived as 183-185cm or so. Girls tend to inflate man's height.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Different countries have the acceptances in different levels to shortcels

« on: April 20, 2023, 05:45:32 PM »

Shortcel, imo is one kind of 'truecel', which means the inceldom is irreversible, unless you'd like to compromise your kinetic functions, and sacrifice A LOT OF money if you have to do Limb Lengthening Surgery.
I found out that, China has the least acceptances for shortcel. There are countless and massive height discriminations in China for shortcels, like many men are persuading shortcels into sicide using the word '重开(Chong Kai)', men under 175cm are disabled, and a shortcel cannot be a pop star no matter how handsome and how charismatic he is. The pop star's inflation of height is also flabbergasting. It is common for a pop star of new generation to inflate his height by more than 5cm, and even 10+cm inflation is existent.
West has higher but only moderate acceptances for shortcel. Yeah there are of course refuses and humiliations in the West society to shortcels, but women weigh higher his persoanlity, skill, talkativeness, etc. than those in China, and Westner is more honest in the self-reported height, and shortcels there have more courages to report their heights in public. They can also be pop stars, and even if you are not just shortcel, but a 'dwarfcel', like Peter Dinklage, you can still be a star. This level of acceptance was even impossible for old generations of China
Japan has the most acceptance for shortcels. They report their heights in a very honest way. There are short pop stars. Women can even accept man under 160cm as long as he is handsome. There are no humiliations to shortcels. I've even seen a 159cm boy became a champion in the handsome competition among school boys the other day.
So, it's really unlucky for me to be born in China, with 162-163cm, which is already considered as subhuman, and never a dating material. I am good at Wang Zhe Rong Yao(王者荣耀), singing and web-socializing, have very rich background(born in one of the richest CBD of Shanghai), I have above average face, I have 120-130 IQ and I have 80 percentile Agreeableness in Big 5 Personality so I have excellent EQ(according to one study, IQ + Agreeableness can already indicate what EQ test purports to measure, so even if you create a psychometrically sound EQ test, you are not measuring anything new). I am also now seeking for the master degree in Quantative Psychology, but these do not matter at all since I am only 162-163cm in China. But the girls should not be to blame for it. They are empowered to have their own standards, and if you can't fulfill them, that's your own problem. (Btw, if any girl thinks there is something else as a man I can grind on, any suggestion for the self-improvement will be highly appreciated!)

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Is girl's height becoming more and more important as well

« on: April 16, 2023, 11:30:34 PM »

I noticed for 05's and younger generations the occurrences of girl's discussions about their own heights in which they express their angsts about heights(and their heights are not even short at all) are significantly more frequent than 00's generation, as which back then the discursions about height only occured among boys sometimes.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / There are incels because the society evaluates people by their sex appeal

« on: February 02, 2023, 11:30:34 PM »

The reason why people who can't build relationships go incel modes is the shame of their inabilities to build it and the reason why they feel ashamed is that the society judges people by their sex appeals.

Maybe it is a pretty common knowledge but we have to fumble out the science behind this phenomena.

My guess is that in the primitive society the demographics is an extremely indication of how much sovereignty a horde can acheive by wars since as we all know, the more people in your horde, the stronger your horde. And it is impossible to produce many children with only a female, so 'polygamy' is necessitated. And how much sex appeal you have was progressively becoming an indication of your personal value as the society was evolving.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Which parts of a woman's body do you fall for?

« on: January 23, 2023, 04:36:42 AM »

tbh I fall for a woman's beautiful legs and feet 

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / What a 'truecel' looks like?

« on: January 08, 2023, 05:45:39 AM »

A truecel in the field of 'incelology' means a man/woman who is so unlucky that he/she can never reverse his doleful fate by surgeries make-ups etc., namely he/she is literally 'doomed'.

But I am just talking about face. I am just really wondering what a truecel face looks like. I think nowadays the plastic surgery is very technological so as long as you have the money there will be no way you can't really ascend.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / My ugliest photo which is driving me nuts. This is post-military photo

« on: December 23, 2022, 01:24:58 PM »

I said the ugliest because I had a bad haircut and half-shaved my eyebrows because of stupidity that shaving eyebrows can make them thicker.
Take it or fk it

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Facial Caucasian similarity is dominating the facial appreciations in E.Asia

« on: December 16, 2022, 11:44:33 PM »

I found out one thing, that even if your face was flawless, your would not be rated highly if your face was not quasi-Caucasian or Caucasian.
Check these photos and you will know if what I am saying is correct or not.



These three guys have 100% E.Asian features but they are literally only 'normie' tier, or at least pretty much there. Their faces have no deficits, or least obvious ones.
But check these three guys, whose faces are very similar to cacusians':





See the difference? That is why I concluded, that you gotta assure your face approaches the caucasian faces as closely as possible, regardless of the deficits because nobody has a totally flawless face.
Unfortunately I have a face that is 100% typical of an E.Asian:
(taken by the rear camera without any filter)
So no wonder I cannot be outstanding in the sense of face, rip

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Do you think the culprit of my MDD is my brutal primary school?

« on: December 16, 2022, 06:54:05 PM »

Being a controlled but obligatedly obedient 7 y.o poor boy I was sent into my primary school by my father, who was always boosting how good this school was even currently while in effect this school did not even have 'baike'(the wiki in China's Internet) and only very few photos of itself, which indicated it was totally an unfamous pit tank.

At the first two years when I was rotting away in that school, I was not suffering a lot because back then I did not suffer from implicit and explicit disrespects and even humiliations until I graduated into Grade 3, iirc, when my 'class teacher' changed and she was a stringent but also amiable woman. Maybe because of her, or maybe because of the progressively concrete effects of China's toxic culture '人上人'(the most superior human) or both, the atmosphere of my class was rendered into that as if it were the 'Shubara', where I started to be disrespeted and condescended upon, for my hand-writing was becoming more and more hard on eyes, my academic performances were too 'not good', my writings were too rhetoric, etc., but mostly for I only did few housework for my parents and they voluntarily do them routinely for me which became my biggest laughing stock.

I remember for once my class and the other class boomed badly on the Chinese's mid-exam or something, and the two class teachers conspired a finesse that could impel us to score higher:
All of the students were required to be seated in the other class, watching every student who failed on this exam retrieve their scored test papers and obliged to stand in the back of the classroom, and the teachers asked them to cry and not until did they cry out they werer not allowed to be seated. We were also stomping when they were retrieving their papers(One of the two teachers said, since applause was the award for high scorers, stomping was the punishment for low scores). Unfortunately because of lack of adequate sympathy I also partook in that nonhumanly brutal disencouraging co-punishment. I also remember back then a boy who was always thought of one of the bravest boys all over the world so that he never cried, poured down his tears as the response to the two teachers' obligation which became one of the most lingering anecdotes in my life. One of the teacher also laughted at a boy's bad Retroflex at 'shi'(He twisted his tongue too exggeratedly when he pronounced this sound) when he retrieved his paper while being asked to stand in front of that teacher.

I was also very timid during my primary school. I was afraid of swimming and the coach colloborated two other girls to pour the pool water onto my face, calling me 'a lame hydrophobia boy'.

My graduation word card was torn into fragments for four times(iirc) because of my bad handwriting, days before my graduation ceremony.

I think the reason why I am suffering from Depression is that primary school and if this did not contribute to my Depression 100%, I'd say at least 90%. I had a lot of traumatic experiences about that school but my English is too bad so I've already consumed a lot of energies and got exhausted so I don't want to write more.

Btw, I wrote this post to quasi-practice my English as the second purpose and if someone was glad to assess it bring it on! I will be grateful!

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 13, 2022, 03:35:10 PM »

Name:LibGen
Age:21
Sex:Male
Education:Learning Computer Science as an undergraduate in one of the best 15 private-established unis.
Country:China
Political Stance: Individualism + Capitalism + Atheism
Hobby:Psychometrics, Math, Language(I like English most), Music.
What am I doing now:Reading scientific materials from Library Genesis + Z-lib + real books + Suffering from Depression.
What am I planning to do now:Get the Bachelor's Degree of CS and then migrate into USA to study Psychometrics to get a master/Ph.D there and then live there forever.
What is my dream:Become a Psychometrician and a professor.
Neurological Diversity:Autism + OCD.
Personality: around ISFP or INFP.
Academic Performance:After primary school I am all the time above average or even well above and my English is one of the best in my class all the time as well. I never studied hard though(My longest extracurricular study time was only 3 hours and that was before months before Gaokao. In the rest of time, I just finished what my teachers asked me to do and spent my time on the games or Internet)
How would you rate it?

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Ready for charcoal-burning suicide next yr, but still want to be chad before it

« on: December 12, 2022, 11:30:31 PM »

Anyone who can tell me how to ascend to a ffffffffffffffffffff chad?
I am suicidal everyday and this is one of my desires before my suicide.
Another desire is to learn Psychometrics abroad in USA(I come from China btw)
Everyone who give suggestions will enter the paradise because I will negotiate it with Lord after I get there after death.