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It's not so difficult to realize it in fact. There are some signs like:

  • You feel you're looking worse than before.
  • You see that females outside don't show any interest in you. They even don't look at you more than a second or two.
  • You're virgin or you didn't have s. activity for a long time.
  • You're too shy to try to connect or to approach a female.
  • Even you're not shy at all and you're not rude, nobody wants to date you.
  • After 100+ tries you're still dateless.

I realized it after a few hundred refuse to date me (and what I mean is a normal date like "Let's go to have a soda and to talk.")

Part two about the oldcels who, mostly, ascended.

Well, let's finish it tonight.

The next part.

After LesscoBlob, another brocel -- RollD20 -- said that there are some oldcels, but they lived in a different circumstance; tradition was heavily prevalent during oldcel times. And lack of social media and ease of travel was not as available. He also noticed that the females just had a smaller pool back then.

I do agree. But see it from the positive point. Now the incels also can have more access to foreign countries and to ascend easier than years ago when there wasn't internet and the foreign language skills weren't that great.

IncelWithHate (a friendly reminder that here we're only welcoming incels and other people without hate) said about that 27 years old brocel "Nope. Three more years to go until you get your invitation by owl to Hogwarts."  ;D

Sounds so "fairy tale"-ic. ;D 8)

tanfeo comment that it's like a kindergarten there. Maybe he think that some brocels are childish?  :)

LesscoBlob predicts that generation Z will become the "Generation of 40 year old virgins". :reeeeee:

Well, who knows. The incels are really more and more. It's a fact.

Autistic Uggo said that should be "Generation V. :lul::kys:"

bagofshit99 added "30s and still here".

Idotms agreed that "just betabuxx" is what is the matter with the ascended oldcels. Well, I suppose that maybe this is the situation with many or most of them.

EternalStorm said that he's still there, "just not all that much of a talker :feelsmage::feelsjuice:"

Well, again... too late. Have to continue it next time...

Good night brocels! Sweet dreams (I wish you sweet ascending dreams!) ;D

And a concrete, from me, a very recent chat (literally minutes ago):

The obese girl: "我真的看起来很明显的胖吗?" ("Do I really look noticeably fat?)

Me (after answering her many other similar questions):  "我已经不好意思回复这个问题。你问了我几次,我回复了实话的。

别浪费时间问人家你“很明显的胖”, 因为人家,大多数,是骗人的,她们大多数会说”你挺好,没事。“ 相信我:你真的,真的,真的要减肥。这个是实话的,清楚。 (没有必要再问我这个问题。如果我说我觉得你25%多,肯定是明显的。所以,就开始努力的减肥。)"

"I'm already getting nervous (shy; awkward) to reply to this question. You asked me several times, and I answered the truth.
Just try to start: more water, fewer calories, more exercise.

Don't waste time asking others that are you "obviously fat", because most of them are liars, and most of them will say "You are fine, nothing wrong with your weight. " Believe me: you really, really, really need to lose weight. This is true and clear. (There is no need to ask me this question again. If I said that I think you are more than 25% (you're heavier 25%+ than the normal), it must be obvious. So, start trying to lose weight.)"

So bad. We, the incels, nearcels, etc. already had it enough bad. :( Why now even this spammers problem?!

Spammers aren't welcome. It's even not ontopic! Writing an essay can't help us to ascend. :(

Bro, again a spamlink was removed.

I was happy (at first) when I saw you here because I thought you're one of the first incels here. Maybe a collegecel? Because I see you're mentioning college and even a word that many incels like and/or just use -- "cope".

Offtopic and spam -- not acceptable. Keep sanity! Well said. Try it because if you just spam here you'll get banned.

The topic here is about the useful sides of the bluepill (which is mostly not very useful and the best is the metapill)..

1. The terminology: a "landwhale" is a pejorative term for an overweight woman. Or just a description (without bad feeling) of a heavily overweight female. When someone uses it he or she means an extremely obese woman.

2. Not only some incels. There are many other males who also dislike the obese women.

3. There is a number of incels who do accept these women.

4. Some of the incels even support the point of view that if some incel doesn't accept the obese women he's a volcel (voluntarily celibate) or standardcel. Some incels may also think that if there is a woman who likes you (even if she is one of the so-called landwhales) you're a fakecel.

My personal opinion: if an incel doesn't like and avoids the obese women who like him he has some standards so he can be called "standardcel".
I am one of these who do not like the obese females, but at the same time, I am glad for them that there are enough males who do like them and that, in fact, most of these females aren't incels (aren't femcels).

I leave it here. I could deleted but I left it. Why? To give chance to this spammer to participate normally in the normal incels forum (for the incels without hate). To give also to you the most important for incels guidelines when it comes to writing essay.

1. If you're writing it to a female who you like, don't write it for free. I know some people who wrote homeworks, essays and other things like this for the females they like with the pure hope that the females will value it and will like them back. Never happened. So, don't be naive. Of course you may help them in this way but only if they pay you back with something (at least to give you a free drink, lunch or something else. I don't mean exactly money or s...)

2. Really, forget the idea that "If I write her the essay/graduate paper/homework she surely will like me and will love me!" That's super naive! Never works, as far as I know.

Sorry to reply so late about the favourite cope (copes). I'm just pretty busy and want to deal with many things at the same time.

We had a conversation about this with some brocels. What I noticed was that some of them do cope in wrong ways. It's another topic.

I think it's okay here to share about my best cope so far.

"I every time advise the brocels to cope with healthy copes like sport and learning. This is 99% of what I do in my poor lonely life -- sport, reading, sport, reading, sport, reading...

And AT LAST A GREAT COPE which found me from nowhere this summer: I become a home tutor of a high school girl!

Why I am so happy?

1. She is normal, pretty, slim, responsible, no smoking, non-drinking, etc. As a normal person I do like this type of females, not criminals, whores and other female trash.

2. I am a responsible teacher and a real pro. (I never try to do STUPID AND IRRESPONSIBLE things like some non-pro teachers do like: kisses, dirty talks, etc.)
But I'm just really glad that until I teach her (Cambridge books, notebook, pens, pencils) at the same time we're drinking tea served by her parents or her on a big pretty wooden table! SO, IN THIS WAY, I CAN AT LEAST IMAGINE that "I am dating a good girl like her! We're on a date, we drink tea and we're chatting about the English grammar, phonics and vocabulary!" :) :) :)

(Disclaimer: I am NOT crazy and I know it's not a date and for her I'm just a teacher, and I even don't dream very seriously some day a young girl to like me. But... I feel so happy for a while, so I just decided to tell you about this cope.)"

I posted it with many colors in that other forum. Broly said to chill will the colors. and "I see more rainbows here than in FamilyGuy1999@FamilyGuy1999’s room"

I answered "Sorry for the colors, brocel! I just wanted to make the points clear." (Here I didn't use colors because I thing that most of the readers will be more normal and intelligent brocels and noncels who're interested in learning the matter.)

"OK, OK, sorry again about the colors.:feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:" I repeated because incelerated laughed about it too.

racoon4 had some too "naturalistic" thoughts and supposed that "we all know you j..... off to teacher f......s a student p......, don't even try to hide that you want to f........ her :feelskek::feelskek:"

I don't want to support this kind of thinking at all and also I'm doing my best to obey the local rules and laws so, I told him as friendly as I can that "Haha! Boy, to be honest when I was in Europe I watched some p*rn but in China?! LOL. For some p*rn like that you're talking about I may end up in the jail, so nah... thanks! ALSO, all of the p*rnsites in China are banned, I have no money for VPN, so... no p*rn in my life. Only memories."

98GoinOnDead said that "I wouldn't be able to enjoy that because I would constantly just be thinking about f.... her but you do you ig"

I don't know what's "ig" but I understood most of his opinion. So, yeah, not everyone can have good self-control and to enjoy the simple joys in this hard, for many of us, life. ::)

BurntIvoryKingcel said that "foid worship is too broad. we need a new rule that covers all manners of simping in general."
 ;D ;D ;D In a word he wants that place to become more misogynic than it is now. Good luck with that! Hate more the "foids" and after that wonder more and more why they hate you more and more!

I even didn't bother to answer him there this. But I answered him that "I said some females are trashy, so you can't accuse me of "foid worshipping".

And most of the incels do want a gf, so logically they "worship" the "foids" to some level?...

All I wanted to say is that we should enforce the good females who are NOT whores, criminals and so on. Because we're all human and we need a progress in the society."

I answered to that brocel (with self-control issue) like this: "Well, I suppose I am more old-fashioned so when I really like some girl I prefer to dream of her like "We walk together on the beach and I hold her hand.", "We drink wine and watching the stars talking about the future." and she feels cold and I give her my coat. I just put 100% censorship on any potential sex dreams because I prefer to enjoy the real love fantasies.

Well, maybe I read too much romantic books and romantic manga... But this is me."

More answers from me: "Btw, I don't want to say banning p*rn is 100% good or 100% bad, but after many years in China WITHOUT p*rn, I realized that I miss the s*x less and less (but my libido is still high because I do m*sturbate every day 1-2 times)... What I mean is without p*rn you think less about it and you have more time to dream of REAL LOVE and things like hugs, looking in the eyes, writing a love letter and so on which matters more than the s*x. S*x you can have with a prostitute but this doesn't make you ascended. Escortcel = still incel." (Sort of incel, let's say.)


"Yeah, bro, I know many of the brocels will just think "Oh! I can't have her! She's going to have a Chang soon! So depressing..." but I just think like a scientist "What if"... and use the time during explaining boring (for me) things like "It's "an orange", not "a orange"!" to use my fantasy and to think "What if it was a date and we drink the tea and talking! At least I am so lucky to be 1 meter close to a girl like this one!"

By the way not going to doxx her but her type anthropology is like this one: "Asian good looking female" photo. (Don't want to bother to post here again.)

So, I just follow the philosophy instead to hate and get angry, just relax and enjoy the unique moment. Because some people even can't have a chance to sit on one and the same table with somebody from the female sex. So, as an old man, I just cherish the moment.:whitepill::whitepill:"

OldER asked "What's her body like bro?" and I told him that it is something like 165cm/55kg.

Slimshady91 added "(in a video game)". This is something that some incels often use there to avoid law problems or to show they're really joking. Not very sure.

I added, to make them more aware about the strict laws abroad, that "P*rn in China nowadays is like pork in and vodka in Saudi Arabia. You better don't do it! :D :D"

NoTommERow asked "How old are you?Are you a white teacher in China?"

My answer: "I don't smoke, don't drink alcohol and do sports with healthy diet. Also I do read manga and communicate online with young people like you, so I keep my biological age and mental age young. My body is like a teenager type (except the hair).

I am a white person with some % yellow genes, something like hapa (half yellow, half white, but mostly white)."

To be continued.

Psychology / Rejection #6
« on: July 23, 2022, 02:22:18 PM »
Rejection #6

There was that ethnic girl (I suppose related to south Asians). I usually don't care about the origin of the people so I didn't ask her exactly about her parents or grandparents. She was a bit chubby (not very fat) and sort of attractive. According to my low standards that time (now maybe they're even lower than before!) she was a 4/10 to 5/10 Becky.

So, we went to have a date and she ordered some expensive drink. I am a poor person but I paid it and then we went to my hope. I tried to kiss her but she stopped me. It was something like a semi-kiss. And that was all. After some minutes she said she wants to go home. Never called back. Maybe she was that type of person "I can order everything on a first date but you can't kiss me on a first date."

Since that time I learned a lesson never to try something more intimate on the fist dates. Well, some guys do it but if you're not at least a Chidlite and with other attractive and valuable capitals like popularity, money, etc. don't risk your future relationship in this "fast mode" date. Better wait until there is some proper period of time because it is really stupid to lose your chance and to lose some (potentially) good female just because you was in a rush and made her think that you're not serious or dangerous and other negativities.

Where are the oldcels? Most of them figured out to ascend. This is what we discussed with some brocels before in another forum.

I told them, in short: the uncles and granpas are ascending better than the youngcels. It's not so simple, I'll link the whole article of the incelologist for those of you who want to read the details: (we already have the link above so, I'm not going to overlink it again) A redpill, a blackpill, whatever! The facts are as simple as this. Metapill theory. But concretely, my personal opinion -- if I wasn't so poor, with my gymmaxxed and edumaxxed old body + romantic abilities and personality, I could find someone who'll at least try to love me. (In fact, biologically, I am not very old at all. The biological age is what matters.)

Mecoja said that they don't care anymore. He highly doubts it they ascended. "At older age you have zero options, half of them are married, other half is f........ with married men."

RuudVanNistelrooy said that betabuxxing will soon be a thing of the past.

I answered them "Not everyone" (and showed them many photos of the elder males who have got intimate relationships with some Asian, African and European women. Geomaxxed elder guys.)

I.N.C.E.L.S. Boss had a very good question (sort of philosophical) - define "old".

I calculated it in this manner: The maximum human lifespan (around 120?)/2 = 60 (around?) years old , so "old" = "after 60"?

Well, you can use another formula. For example if in some region the average lifespan is, let's say, 84 years, then just divide it in 2 and you'll get it - 42 years old+ is already getting older or old. But remember, the biological age matters, not this one.

tulasdanslos said about it "Gen X and earlier then. They had all the cards in their hand, they could betabuxx or be degenerate easily because no dating apps existed. Virgins among them are probably 3 to 5% if I had to guess."

Well, I am a gen X.  ;D At least I'm not the oldest old. I am an younger old. ;D An younger oldcel. Oh, yeah!!! :D ;D 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

No kidding. I'm from the generation X. :D

bagofshit99, about the photos, said: "lolol yup

tThey all made their money and then SEAmaxxed :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek:
It don't take long to figure out that's the best option".

And because my examples weren't only about SEAmaxx (it's my favorite geomaxx, but anyway), I had to explain that some of them - with Africans and Slavs too. Maybe there are terms concretely for these? Like Africamaxx and Slavmaxx (a sort of Euromaxx or EUmaxx/E-Umaxx?)

happiless asked about one of these elder men "I'd like to do exactly whatever he did up to that point in his life".

Transcended Trucel answered him that "He apparently is very spiritual and relaxed. You need learn the psychological tricks these spiritualists and some cultist have. It is very hard for autistics like us to do. :feelsrope:"

I don't think that incels have to follow fake things like spiritualism. Follow only the science, brocels! Don't fall for non-science things.

Autistic Uggo agreed about the betabuxxing with the opinion that as polygamy and the Chad harems grow, there will be plenty of oldcels.

the.oracle said that Mmost men are desperate and would rather settle for betabuxxing and being a cuck to a (here he used some vulgar words which I'll not quote because we're a clean and hateless incels' community) past the wall than being alone.
He added he's 27 and is it enough to be called an oldcel. ;D Gosh, from my perspective 27 is so young! Of course for someone who is 14 it may look "very old". ;D

happiless reacted to that spiritual and spiritualistic opinion with "Oh f... sake :feelscry:"  ;D

Emba said that they have just to betabuxx.

oldcel101 shared his, looks like, honest opinion that was "Oldcel with money. Would SEasianmaxx, but mental health has always been an issue and would probably get worse if I went over. Want to escortcel, but not many options for that where I’m at."

I think that being an escortcel isn't exactly being an incel.

BardakTheGreat reacted to that opinion that the oldcels don't care anymore (which I don't think is true about all of the oldcels) with a blackpill emoticon. And I answered: "Some of them do care, brocel."

IchWillSterben said only "Roped".

I never understood that guy...

And, because I stand with the facts, I said that "Most men are desperate and would rather settle for betabuxxing"...  is just true. This is the reality.

And another comment of mine: "Money is a must, brocel."

ogleman said "Here." (Didn't get it. Maybe he means that there are many of the oldcels... I don't know.)

jerkjocky said "You''re not gonna see many 30+ here, not because they ascended, but because the blackpill was simply not present in the form it is now in their generation. You will see a lot of 30+ here in 5 years when all of us mid 20s cels hit 30s.
It's generational."

I disagree with this. In fact years ago there were blackpilled people (i. e. pessimistic who knew simple things like "I am too ugly and poor. They like handsome and rich.") And it's not good to be blackpilled because most of the blackpilled are not trying at all to improve themselves. The best is to be redpilled and the optimal is to be metapilled.

LesscoBlob: "This:yes:. It's extremely rare for men aged 40+ to be virgins, but in 10-15 years, it will become much more common."

I think that's possible. Of course nobody can predict the future. It's just a trend.

To be continued. Sorry, I have to sleep. Tomorrow have to go be a workcel and a busycel. ;D

Psychology / Rejection #5
« on: July 22, 2022, 04:43:48 AM »
Rejection #5

It's a short story but with morals. From that phone conference line I had a date with one young woman who worked in some Xerox (copy services) garage. She said I may go to see her there, in her work place. Seems it was a good idea, to her, because in this way she can just see the person and decide if she likes him or not without the need to spend with him more time somewhere and to suffer in case she feels that he is ugly or has another problem.

So, I went there and I saw she was an ethnic girl (or someone with mixed blood) -- more dark than the average people in that city. I like this type of skin. And also she was with a long black hair, slim body, cool face. I liked her at once. Then I went there again, after some days, but I found out that she's not interested. She didn't like me at all. I got upset and told her with judgmental tone:
You don't like me!
She answered with rude tone but what she said made me realize for the first time a blackpill or a redpill truth and to start to respect people's decisions when it comes to choice. Her rude toned but meaningful answer was that short:
And is it mandatory to like you?!

Is is mandatory if you like somebody the same one to like you too? Just because you like her/him? Well, obviously it's not. Later I learned more about the things like love is a bilateral process, consent and so on.

Well, till the present days, I still feel "not in fair" that some females that I like will go after another man (who is stupider, less educated, less polite, less healthy and so on). But I'm trying to say to myself "You also don't want to be forced to be with some woman that you dislike, do you?" so, usually, I am telling them that "I understand that they don't like me and I'll do my best to improve myself; wishing them happiness...", etc. I'm not going to criticize or to press them. The incels who insult women for not willing to be with them are very wrong. They really make the things worse. Because if they accept the women decision with patience and not aggressively later they have much more chance to find someone, even the girl that they liked before. Leaving bad memories is not the good choice. Leave good memories to have more chance later and to have a better image; not to have a ruined one.

We had a discussion about it in that other forum.

My opinion is that if you refuse some females (for example those very obese ones; very fat ones, known as "landwhales" or "land whales". No offense to fat people; I am not a supporter of sizeism; just don't want to date someone like them.) you're not a volcel. You may be a standardcel but it... still, doesn't mean that an incel has to be standardless. I don't think that such people do exist (no matter what are they, incels or not.)

So, I did a thread named "The difference between FAKECELS and STANDARDCELS"

Well let me explain the terms: a fakecel is someone who is not an incel but pretends that he is or someone who thinks/believes that he is an incel but in fact he isn't. A standardcel is someone who has very high standards so he's single. And a volcel is someone who wants to keep celibacy.

Here is the discussion. I started with:

"Brocels, don't tell me that rejecting this kind of women makes you a fakecel:
(gave an example with a photo of an overobese woman.)
. A standardcel -- maybe.

Having some taste doesn't make you a fakecel. We can't just accept each and everyone just because she is a female!

What if she is THAT FAT or she is a crazy Stacy who wants to pee in your mouth and to shit on your head during the sexual activity time?!

Some minimal standards are okay, aren't they?"

Because I wasn't sure if all the brocels are able to get it; many of them are just teenagers or young men without very big experience, I added this: "If some brocel thinks that the shitting example was unreal, here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coprophilia

Some women and men are REALLY that sick!"

nice_try said "Yes, they are. We already discussed this a billion times." (About the minimal standards.) I didn't know that they discussed this "1 000 000 times". ;D ;D ;D I hope this forum to become also that popular and to collect 1 million posts. ;D :D :) 8) 8)

HateCurry said that "I know a stacy fat foid. Literally the only obese woman I was ever attracted to, and when I'm attracted to someone they have to be extremely good looking. She had overall awesome genetics she remained to look so sexy even though she's obese."

I answered him that "Oh, I don't mind if some brocels can accept some of these super obese women. I'm only against that "If you don't accept EVERY women, you're a fakecel."

In fact, as we counted before, most of us like Beckies, so our standards are not high at all: incels.is/threads/is-it-true-that-most-of-us-prefer-beckies.379161/"

Broly added that "If having standards and not wanting to be with a hideous female makes me a fakecel or volcel, I’d take that label with pride."  :) Well said.

decembrist_kirillov said that he wants at least his looksmatch.

coping_manlet said that considering the standards women have in modern society, not wanting a 70 year old who weights 600 pounds and has 20 k in debt from food bills should be acceptable.

Moeggels posted to the brocel with the "1 million times": "You don’t seem to understand that."  ;D

RobTenekin quoted that about the looksmatch.

And Pillow City Rev quoted that about the pride.

LeFrenchCel said that f....... someone who barely looks human can't be considered as ascension.

Monke joked about that super obese female that "I need to see her naked :ahegao::ahegao::ahegao:

Just to ensure shes a woman. Right now its not clear. :feelspuke::feelspuke::feelspuke:" He means that it's difficult when someone (I'd add -- male or female, doesn't matter) is too fat to see the thing that in biology is known as "sexual dimorphism".

nice_try asked (to) "understand what"?

Moeggels answered him honestly "That having standards is okay".

And the nice_try answered "I literally said that having standards is okay.
They just can't be high if you're an incel."

With this I agreed and said "Good point, bro."

So, yeah, we can't be too picky, indeed. Too picky = no chance, i. e. a real standardcel = forever incel. Of course, not a volcel but sort of fakecel, only in case that his standards are super unrealistic.



People who know the incels' communities maybe know the term life fuel (LifeFuel). What is your favorite one?


NEVER kill yourself because you're getting older!

People who know the incels' communities may notice that some incels are too depressed and they often talk about suicides, "rope", etc. Here we're a normal incels' forum, for the incels who're normal and not indoctrinated (radicalized). So, obviously, we should prevent the suicidal thinking and tendencies, i. e. for us the natural thing is the so-called "life fuel" (aka "LifeFuel", "Lifefuel").

Here comes one of my positive and objective threads that I posted in other forums too.

Hi, brocels. Maybe you know I'm an oldcel who now looks better than when he was younger. (Except the f*cking hair.) It's a pity the selfies here are forbidden and I can't prove you.
But there is another example. This Asian guy is 50+ years old and managed to look like 20 something. So, if you're having sporty and healthy life you can look better when you're older: PHOTOS (https://www4.bing.com/images/search?q=50+years+old+singaporean&form=HDRSC2&first=1&tsc=ImageHoverTitle) and an article about him: https://www.trueactivist.com/50-year-old-singapore-man-who-looks-20-wows-the-internet-shares-his-youthful-secrets/.

Here I'll add some comments/reactions from brocels in those other forums:

Eunuch said that 60 years old Chad smvmogs a 20 years old "subhuman" (he means "incel". It's bad that some incels call themselves and the other brocels "subhuman". I am against it so at once I told him that "True. I just don't use terms like "subhuman" because we're all equal.") About the rest I think he's right. For those who're new and don't know the terminology (jargon; slang) I'll explain that "smv" is "sexual market value" and mog (mogs) means someone or something to be better than another one or another thing. Of course the age is a factor but if you keep your real (biological) age low you'll be okay. And, all over, Pretty elder > ugly younger (Handsome elder > ugly younger), according to many actual choices of the human beings.

wei#3959 said that it's just cosmetics though and that all of our balls are gonna sag more and our bodies aren't gonna be the same in like 20, 30 years.

Here I am adding the same: it depends on how you manage your ageing. Some people age like wine, others like milk. It's another big topic which worth to be created and discussed here.

hateful insul posted this

I think it's wrong because 1/ the uglycels and the uglier people aren't subhuman. It's a bad nazi word. Avoid it. 2/ I'm not that handsome, I just healthmaxx and gymmaxx, studymaxx, etc. so I'm an improved incel who is giving you real copes and real hopes to ascend, brocels!

DrainGangEnthusiast said that some reddit post calls this guy (the young looking Singaporean man) out for being a "fake natty".

And I think that's not likely because he is popular and for sure people can meet him irl and to prove he's real. Also his body is perfect so even the face isn't that young in reality, he still looks perfect for a 50 or 50+ years old.

DrainGangEnthusiast also said that "I think if you want to look young when you are old its possible if you can afford, roids and surgery. But the lie that a natural healthy life can make you a Greek god at an old age is ruining for young people."

I think it's wrong to call me liar, you know? 1. Because I never said a person will look like a Greek god. 2. It's not ruining for young people if you make them to work hard and to keep healthy; then when they're old they'll really look better than their youngselves especially when now they're too fat, too skinny, too muscleless, too ill, etc. 3. Looking well (or at least "better than before") is possible without roids and surgeries.

More from me, I added this
Yep, the hair can be a real problem but some ppl like The Rock, Vin Diesel, Kurt Angle can still be nearly Gigachads even bald.

Then I'll post my pics (with hidden face; I hope it's not a problem here) and I'll ensure you that it's really possible to manage to look better when you're 50 compared with when you're 20, especially when when you was young was a tired, fat, only studying nerd...

OK, as I promised -- photos (not selfies, because I didn't took them by myself) and with edited face (in order to keep the rules). Just to prove that even around 50 years of life without roids and surgeries, just via healthy life (no drugs, no smoking, no hard alcohol, diet rich in vegetables and fruit) and sport, one can look better than when he was younger. (And, hey, I'm even trying to face Captain America! :incel: :D :D )

The Grinch quoted that about the 60 years old Chad. Probably he agrees with that. Good because really the ageing shouldn't stop us to keep trying to improve ourselves in the right ways and, hopefully, to ascend.

TheNEET said that the body doesn't matter much (besides just not being scrawny or fat), and that he wonders how he (the Singaporean man) keeps his face young looking (and supposed that since everyone focuses on his body, maybe he unapologetically just uses filters).

 But, still, I think with or without filters, he looks pretty good in reality and his body is enough to be a noncel (if not a volcel, for example). He just shows us that if you have the opportunity and use it working hard this thing is possible. I hope when I am exactly 50 years old to look at least 75% as he looks in his 50s. 8) :D

 Izayacel said it's because of the good genes ("God genes , Strike yet again".) but I think that the genes are only the base. With only genes you can't be that good-looking! Even some of the genetic disorders are preventable with healthy life, sport and so on. Don't be a "genes determinist" or "genes fatalist".

 Something similar (race oriented, i. e. also related with some of the human genes) said BarrelStuffer: "Some Asians just age really well and don’t look old until their 60s." and "Also sunscreen, tretinoin, and surgery".

 I think that it's not so Asian thing. I saw people who manage to age well from all the races. And I don't like surgeries, so I promote only softmaxxing like diets, sports, study (meditations), etc.

 persianoldcel said "I like your motivation for life and it's true some men look better when they get aged." and "Looking good bro."

 Really good comment and wise. This is how the good incels should behave.

 I answered jokingly but seriously that
Thanks! :) In fact I am also surprised from my results. Next level = want to become a Chad. :D
(Of course exactly "Chad" is impossible, but maybe a Brad or a Chadlite? At least a high-tier Norman, oh, I hope so, so much!)

depressedblackcel also had a gene fatalism comment "Incels already have shit genes so this thread is cope honestly".

I hope I am a proof that even with not that great genes the good results are achievable via hard work and healthy choices.

ldargoblin said that he or me, I am not sure,  look 35-40 years old. Anyway, that's it. I even think that can pass for a 28-30 years old. Anyway, the details aren't important.

Yes. What is the next? Of course more lifefuel from me! 8) 8) 8) But now is time for going out to gymmaxx, to take some fresh air, to have a healthy walk too... to healthmaxx with some eggs and some vegetables and fruit. So, see you in the next post!  :)


How many of you really approached at least one woman?

A serious question for this inceldom community: How many of you really approached at least one woman (or man)?

I mean, well, some of the incels only complain that they can't find a partner but they never try. If you never try, how do you know that you're really an incel?

About me: 500+ already. The free e-book for the brocels is coming, step by step: http://www.seo-forum-seo-luntan.com/psychology/500-rejections/  8)...

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