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Well, before I wasn't, later I became one. The factors:

- aged. Most of the people are ageists and they do prefer younger ones. Trying to get rid of some elder age typical problems with healthy life and sports.
- got fat. Luckily lost weight and 99% get rid of this problem.
- lost plenty of hair. Male pattern baldness (aka male-pattern hair loss). Not my fault. Difficult to deal with. Most of the women dislike balding and bald men... have to capmaxx, hatmaxx and shavemaxx. I don't want to use medicines which may ruin my health.
- couldn't succeed in moneymaxx. Still, there is hope but who knows... It's difficult to find someone who likes poor men.
- not tall enough (locationmaxx problem, isn't it?)
- small frame (not an excuse for no gymmaxx, so gymmaxx is my goal and one of my best copes) which for many women is not masculine enough.
- some other minor problems I guess (my voice, for instance, isn't deep enough).

Psychology / Rejection #4
« on: July 20, 2022, 02:43:37 AM »
Rejection #4

One of the phone rejections that many of the nowadays incels will call "brutal black pill" or "my first black pill". "Phone rejection" because me and that woman met in a conference line (phone conference line) many years ago when there wasn't internet.

So this is the story. One night, maybe around 2:00 a. m., there were not many people on the phone's conference line. I liked to use it in the late hours (early morning ours) because at that time there weren't so many other males and the competitions was low. Well, this helped me to find the woman in question. She sounded like a young, sexy college girl (probably 21 or 22 years old). We talked around 10 to 15 minutes about different common topics like "Are you from the same city?", "Where do you live?", "Are you sleepy?", "Do you like night conversations?", "How did you learn about this conference line?", "I like this new song... and you?" and then came the "black pill moment". She asked me how tall I am and what's my weight. I answered her honestly. That time I was around 171 cm and around 65 kg. This is something average (or slightly below average) for that area. 45%-50% of the males are around that height and a bit heavier (that time the obesity wasn't that big problem as nowadays). So, I felt okay. I can't say "pretty confident" but I really didn't feel I'm very rejectable because I wasn't fat, I practiced martial arts and I read a lot of books; also I wasn't that old at that time and I was proud of my choice to avoid the alcohol and the cigarettes. So, I felt myself as a young, educated and healthy (and sporty) boy. It wasn't enough for her! She said straightly and honestly (and I am thankful for that) something like "Oh! It's not enough good for me. I like taller, stronger, massive males. Otherwise my vadge is not going to become ready for..."
 It really surprised me (because till that time no female was so straight and so open in the way she explains the things) but I am really thankful and I never felt any hate to this woman because she made me to think that for the females the looks, the body, also do matter and only "Be healthy, be smart, be polite and have a hobby" is not enough.

Social network | SEO - Social network / To Oroborus (2)
« on: July 18, 2022, 06:33:29 PM »
I started to re-read some of the older posts and noticed you again with something insulting like "low IQ", "fag"... As you know by yourself (according to the info you submit on your profile under the avatar and in the signature "~True Autismo~", "Schizos are never alone") you are an abnormal incel (some kind of mentalcel), so I do pity you and I do suggest you to search for psychological and psychiatric help. Maybe they will help you to ascend.

Some of the incels' reactions about it.

When I posted this in another forum some brocels comment it in this way (these ways):

racoon4 said: "like any of us will ever go on a date :feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelskek::feelshmm::feelshmm:"

LeFrenchCel said that if you're having dates, you have nothing to do there.

virginforlife: "Lol, if someone has the hope of dating foid why would they be here? For me I will never get a foid date me as it is impossible for an ugly subhuman curry like me to even make her want to date me." AND (about the free lunch) "They get everything for free no matter how they look being a foid is just enough to live a life, free food, free sex, everything for free, they are the one living their life and we are here rotting in our houses just because we can't get this hypergamous foid".

yez: "There is no incel who dates foid."

Oroborus (one of the very abnormal incels) comment with "Low iq fag.
I could talk for hours the problem is my 'tism, any foid would notice it"

SoloAlex: "" ;D ("going on a date meaning")

BoxCutter: "Really hope I could use that link someday:feelscry:".

My answers:
virginforlife@virginforlife, sure. But many of them complain that their life is hard because have to born kids and to be mothers. :) Some even complain that every month have to suffer the menstruation. So, they feel unlucky, you know? I often hear "In my next life I want to be a man." or "I wish I am a male."

BoxCutter@BoxCutter, good luck bro! I wish you the best one!
(He: "Thanks brocel:feelsokman:")

Bro, I suppose some of the high-tier incels do date but... a date means nothing. Usually you just pay the money for cafe, cinema... and nothing after that.

virginforlife added: "If they say that is hard then what about being an incel like us dying a virgin without even knowing what true love is? Without knowing how a p*ssy feels like? If truly next life exists(I hope it won't I don't want to be in this hell again)& if foids are born as male incel then she will understand how easier being a foid is than dying as an undesirable virgin."

OldER said that it's all about the vibes... What you say no matter so much.

bagofshit99 added something similar to OldER's: "mostly chads just tell stories and foids sit and listen
foids that actually talk are super f*cking annoying (to everybody)"

Loner94 agreed with him saying it's precisely.

MomoCel asked can he get a tutorial on how to get date first.

I decided to be more humorous with some basic (so-called "bluepilled") advises:
You know: take a shower, be confident and smile.:bluepill::bluepill::bluepill::bluepill::bluepill::bluepill::bluepill::bluepill::bluepill::bluepill::bluepill::bluepill: Sure thing! :D:feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:

But if we're serious, a date isn't so difficult if you do the right maxxing (moneymaxx + gymmaxx + edumaxx + healthmaxx + socialmaxx).

Oh, if you're a Chad you can just sit there and say "Hi!", then she will surely find a lot of topics. But if you're NOT, then you need to lead the topics otherwise she may decide that "He is not just ugly, he is boring too." and leave.

BraincelsRefugee: "Thanks, I will use this.... Never".

I hope you're wrong. Good luck, bro!


So, that's it. Many of the pessimistic brocels don't believe that they may have a date but better to be ready and not to blow it out just because they didn't prepare what topics to talk about. And remember: a "date" doesn't mean "success".


For those (REALLY LUCKY) incels who're having a date but don't know what to talk

Hi, good brocels!

A brocel in another thread (in another forum) pointed to something really important; he said something like on his date with a girl he has no idea what to talk about.

MAN, CAN YOU IMAGINE IT?! YOU'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE A REAL DATE (which is a bigger achievment than paying a prostitute because "escortcel = still incel (sort of, let's say "nearcel")" ) AND TO RUIN IT JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FIND A TOPIC.

Here is something that I read days ago and to be honest everyone can use the dozen of topics to complete his first date 100%:

A DOZEN of easy to use topics which are saving your date.

Can you add some more topics if you had some ideas, share to help the brocel (brocels) who is (are) going to have his (theiir) first date or something.

Social network | SEO - Social network / To Oroborus
« on: July 18, 2022, 05:05:59 AM »
Some incel (or a troll, a fakecel or just a not polite and not educated guy) said "Fkecel f*g f*ck" (don't want to quote this vulgarism in 100%).

Obviously Oroborus brocel is not someone with a good IQ. He doesn't understand the definition of the word "incel". He thinks that only the virgin and/or the kissless incels are real incels. In fact it's a broad category. There are even husbandcels, escortcels and so on.

Of course, I don't have some kind of hope for people like him to understand. Maybe after years... and still I'm not sure.

When I was in Incels.is (and before I got banned because one of their moderator has no idea what is the definition of "incel") I wanted to help the incels over there as much as possible -- to prevent their suicidal thoughts, to give them more hopes and copes which are healthy, more lifefuel, etc. I think that most of them are teenagers with a very limited life experience. So I wanted to share with them my rejection experience (in this way they can learn how to avoid some scams, how to be ready for rejections, what to expect in the future and so on).

I tried to be a polite and nice person so I made a poll (and a topic) over there in which I said: (Experiment) "I got rejected more than 500 times in my life. How many of you would like to read about it?"

The poll results were: Share about these 500+ rejections one by one?
Yes, that's useful, I may learn a lot!   Votes: 16   59.3%   
No, what's the point?   Votes: 4   14.8%   
As you wish, I don't care.   Votes: 3   11.1%   
Just start it and if the brocels don't care, stop it later.   Votes: 4   14.8%   

(I cast 1 vote for the last option.)

So, most of them decided that it'll be useful and they may learn a lot.

Before I introduce my new e-book, let me share the details (opinions) that I've got in that conversation with some of the brocels.

Well, I started with
Hi, brocels! Because (maybe) I am the oldest here logically I got rejected more than 500 times so far. :feelshaha:

It's not something to be proud of (except "Wow, what a persistant oldcel!") :feelshaha::feelshaha:

So, because I don't want to bother you with stories of rejections from females (from Europe and Asia mostly + some from the US), at first, just to ask you:

If I start to write about them, one by one, is it going to be useful or interesting to you, or not?

HiddenUzer said that he likes to hear about other people's experience so he doesn't mind.

I answered that
I think I can make the threads about it shorter here and to share the longer stories in a link to another source. Like that the brocels who want to read more will read more; the others who prefer the short type stories will just read the short here and will not getting bored.


Thanks, HiddenUzer@HiddenUzer for the answer. I'll wait to read the opinion of others too and if 50%+ want it, I'll do it. (I really don't want to bother anybody here; only wish to help as much as I can because most of the incels are really good but unlucky guys.)

BlkPillPres said "No, don't care.

If anything I'd say you were "stupid" not "persistent".

Stopping at 50 would have made sense.

Stopping at 100 can be excused.

But continuing past that is no longer a feat of will or intelligence, it's just outright denial of reality, it's just coping. I can just imagine how much money you wasted buying clothes, styling yourself, using hair and skin care products, trying to max out your looks in various ways.

All futile.

Honestly, if I had finally gotten laid after 499 attempts, I wouldn't even feel happy about it or proud. I would likely stop approaching and just start fucking whores, because who the fuck is going to do another 400+ approaches after the current bitch you have leaves you for an upgrade? (that's the most probable outcome for an incel).

The juice isn't worth the squeeze. The returns don't match the investment. It's just not worth the effort."

Then, because I saw he doesn't get it, I answered, the truth, that
Brocel, I never said I am a kissless or a virgin incel. :):feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha: I had some success before.

Then I got fat, older, etc. and already around 10 years I'm loveless lonely incel.

But recently I'm improving myself (gymmaxx, studymaxx, moneymaxx, etc.) so this is meaningful to persist.


Really sorry, if someone thinks that all the incels are virgins. IN THIS FORUM there are many incels who even order prostitutes (escrortcels)...

Incel = involuntarily celibate (but even most of the volcels in the monasteries and churches, before they go there have had sex or even love.)

So... I'm just not what you imagined (a kissles and a virgin incel). i'm just incel in the past around 10 years. That's it.

Meanwhile doomed 7 told me to post about them.

I answered with:
OK, I hope more people will vote for it and I'll write every day 2-3 stories. :)

Now I think that 2-3 per day is a bit more because I started to develop this new incels forum over here. But even 1 per day should be enough for the readers. I hope nothing bad is going to happen with me or with this forum so I will be able to finish this big e-book. :)

BoxCutter also said that tbh "I'd like to hear some".

turbosperg posted something interesting; it worth a special discussion because points to important inceldom problems but for now I'll just quote it here: "When you're ugly, your rejections are brutal -- looks of disgust, harsh words, jokes, bullying, etc.

You don't need 500 such experiences to conclude you're unwanted by foids.

The theory that "tHerE's SoMeOnE fOr EvErYoNe" doesn't hold water because mate-seeking behavior doesn't vary within a species.

In the wilderness, the animals that are fucking zebras are zebras. Is there a zebra that would rather fuck a donkey? Perhaps, but highly unlikely they'll pair up in the wild. Likewise, among foids, their mate-selection criteria is the same across the whole species -- looks, money, status.

Maybe a stacy will reject a non-Chad that would still have a chance with a becky. But if foids from all PSL ratings, all abdominal circumferences, all walks of life they all reject you, that's because you're a zebra waiting for a nice-looking donkey to fuck. Not happening."

NoTommERow asked do I feel bad "because you don't have a wife and kids(I assume you don't) ,aka the typical human life?What are your most important regrets in life?"

I think I didn't answer him there because soon the stupid ban came and I had no opportunity to preview all the comments and questions that I've got there. I can answer him here, maybe he'll read it some day, that my most important regrets are that I didn't start much earlier to self-improve (to -maxx: moneymaxx, studymaxx, gymmmax and, maybe, the right geomaxx...)

More of my answers in that poll thread about the "500 Rejections":

The idea is that a person is not just a donkey and he can ascend (up to 50%-60% of the people who're incels have chances after softmaxx like diet, gym, study, money, etc. and the worse cases - trucels - after surgery-maxx and geo-maxx).

I keep trying because now I'm better than before (lost weight, gain muscles, learned more about the people and the life, changed my character). If I was the same I could stop trying. If I became worse (for example fatter I should stop). The idea is that when you are improving yourself you have more chances, so keep trying.


Even with a wife I'd like to remain a child-free person. I have the idea that only super rich people should have kids. If you're poor and can't afford the kid's education, medical security, house, car, etc., why to born a pity kid?! I'm a responsible man. If I am not rich enough, never dream of kids no matter how much I (maybe) will fall in love in the future. DON'T make unhappy kids.


OK, thanks for the voting you all!

I will make it as a free e-book in that science-oriented forum. Here I will post the short stories like #1 rejection, #2 rejection in which to give you the essence of every rejection like "she said that if we date I should have a car, an apartment and own company, but I haven't because I am a poorcel so she said "OMG! If you're so poor why you don't get rich?! I don't date poor guys." and then if someone wants to read the details of the story, can continue to read in the free e-book.

I think this is the best way for everyone. I'll start it today, the staff there gave me permission to post e-book (but without concrete names or sexual details. :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:)
No worries, I am a polite man.

Broly also quoted BlkPillPres' "No, don't care." which means that he also doesn't care. (I just told him "OK. :)".)

the virgin shepherd shared a video with the comment "incels.is be like" which I didn't watch, so I had no comment about it.

BlkPillPres shared a video too (with the comment "Coping Incels - "I'm gonna get me a GF one day, BELIEVE IT!"")

I told him and people like him that
It's simple: if you remain fat, poor, non-muscular, dirty, etc. you better stop. If you're getting slimmer, earning a bit more money, getting muscles, improving your hygiene, clothes, character, etc. (you're being like from 2/10 going to be a 5/10) you already mog the dad bod Normans and you can compete with most of the Normans and some of the Chadlites.

So, who improves himself has the ability to try. Who doesn't, better not to try. :):)

UniqueUzername supported the idea that the incels should give up after many tries with ":whitepill:One hundred percent true!!"

doomed 7 asked me to post physique.

My answers to those were as follows
It's not even 50% true because he assumed that I never succeed. I told you, that;
a) I'm not a virgin, nor kissless.
b) I'm getting better recently, so it makes sense to continue.


doomed 7@doomed 7 I had already some posts about it. Like this one: incels.is/threads/dont-kill-yourself-because-youre-getting-older.380222/

BarrelStuffer said that approaching is dumb and doesn’t work anymore unless you’re at least chadlite. He explained it like this: "Every foid is online now so why would she care about some guy approaching her irl when she’s getting attention from several better looking guys on apps and social media? Like would you really be bothering trying to meet girls irl or obsessing over the cute receptionist at the gym if you were getting messaged online from foids calling you handsome every day?
The only way to get laid irl anymore as a non chad is to get into an NT social circle and warm approach since then she actually knows you and you have some social proof."

I think there are some interesting points which worth to be discussed in this forum more. There I just comment, shortly, that
Yes, the Internet made the things difficult. But at least gave us the opportunity to improve ourselves more. If it was easy now would still be obese and maybe already ill. At least the efforts saved my health.

About my improvements (-maxxes):
Visual: because I REALLY GOT BETTER than BEFORE, it makes sense to keep believing I can do it:

More lifefuel from me: years ago:

, recently:

Before:   and now:

And it's only the visual improvement. My knowledge, my income and my character (wisdom) also improved.

No time to upload photos here. Later if there are more brocels and others participating in this forum, I'll be glad to show them. :)

Animecel2D said, I suppose ironically, "Oh yeah? What type of success did you have…. brocel? Do go into detail about it"

yez added "It has no point. We are incels."

doomed 7 commented something about the gym -- "bro why do you go to crossfit f*ggot gyms and wear tight clothes? reject these gay stuff mate"

I strongly disagree with that. Probably I have to answer more about it if I don't forget in the answers to some incels. I know the brocel didn't mean to hurt me, just thinks it is right and helpful but he's not right.

Another comment of mine is
But most of the incels can ascend. There are so many ways to do so -- the easiest one is the go to some poor country where the locals like you more (geo-maxx). It's not 100% no chance.

There is even a theory (something like a definition) which states that the incels can ascend the truecels can't ascend. Well, I think so, most of the incels are very able to ascend.

Here was an attempt to explain them what is the real meaning of the word "incel":
No doxxing.

Just remember that incel = involuntarily celibate. NOT every incel is virgin. Here some even share how many prostitutes they had sex with (escortcels).

I don't use prostitutes. But also I'm not a virgin or a kissless. Just already around 10 years I can't find a single person to like me (2 "landwhales" are an exception).

REMEMBER: the Donnelly study, defined incels as all adults who fail to find a sexual partner for six months or more (Source: incels.wiki/w/Main_Page)

UniqueUzername said that I am  wasting your time on retard b!tches. And "Accept the reality and invest your time in doing something better."

kaang asked to tell them some success stories first.

The Grinch asked me why didn’t I stop trying after the first 100 rejections.

RuudVanNistelrooy comment "You seem like you're trolling, something off about your writing style. Since you already admit that you are no civ virgin i assume that you're a failed normie."

My answers:

Not exactly. I gymmaxx but I also study science, languages... watch some movies, try more ways to earn money... read some e-books.

I lead a meaningful life.


"tell us some success stories first, brocel."

OK. My first kiss was with a virgin Turkish girl (when I was around 22 years old). She was my FIRST girlfriend, I was her number 3 or 4... She was 14 that time. We never had sex. We broke up because she tried to go to disco club without me to meet other guys and to flirt there. Her aunt helped me to realize the truth.

Later I had to report her to the police too because she tried to blackmail me.


"Why didn’t you stop trying after the first 100?"

because that time I met 2 honest girls who said: "You're ugly. That's why you can't. Lose weight! Build some muscles!"

And they helped me to improve myself to this level. Now at least 2 landwhales so far said they like me, but I can't with them... and now I can have some chats but they ghost me and never agree to date. Still not good enough for them. :(


"You seem like you're trolling"

Boy, I swear to my death mom's grave that I am a nearly 50 years old uncle (who manages to keep his bio age low with sport and diets) , SO for a grown man like me trolling young boys like you is a SHAME.

I want only to help you and to learn something from you. I like to chat with young people like you who have the same problem as me. And also I do practice my English because it's my main income (teaching English) as a poor man without own company.

UniqueUzername wanted to talk to me. I answered him "This forum has private messages. Just send me one or if you can't I will send you, bro." He said that he tried - "I tried to pm you but it says-

Yikes! Something went wrong. Lets unpack this.
You cannot start a private conversation with Poorbaldshortcel.""

I told him "I also got this error. Maybe the forum is too busy. I'll try to reach you, brocel."

Then he: "Now got this....:feelsbadman:

"General chit-chat
The place where you can chat about everything.
You don't have the permission to join this room.""

And I suggested him to come to this Omnilogy forum (which still was without incel board. it was incelless  ;D)
Well, then go to Omnilogy forum register there and search for me (my nickname there is "Incel"). I'm there now to write my free e-book about the 500 rejections.

And, at the end, I thanked them (
THANK YOU ALL for the votes and opinions! I started it:...

There were some aggressive comments which I'm going to answer in the right place mentioned above. You know already where do I answer the bad incels (some of the incels are bad, it's a fact). So, don't want to waste my time and your time in this more important thread about the incel e-book "500 Rejections".

IncelHeII said "nah bruh just sum it up, reject you for height or looks? Or maybe you didn't have confidence and they did not like the "way you carried yourself"?"

And I sum it up like this:
"reject you for height or looks? "

- height

- hair

- money (why no money?????????? :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha: )

- age

- nationality (why no from USA? I LIKE ONLY AMERICANS! :feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman: )

- personality ("Too honest, can't lie.")

- race ("I date only Chinese and Koreans. No Westerners!")

- religion (HOW YOU DARE TO BELIEVE IN SCIENCE? NOT IN GOD! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah! You godless piece of scientist :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:)

- family story (you're motherless, huh? I need someone with a good family.)

- and some more (like: ALL the westerners are with AIDS! I AM AFRAID!!! :feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsbadman:)

Some of the rest (mine) (One of them was the answer to TheGambler2, who said "absolute state of .is :feelsseriously::society:" (he means that most of the incels there are not necessarily kissless, virgins, kissless virgins, etc.) AND "compete for what?? blown out 1000 body count 30+ roastoids? :feelsgah::society:"):
OK, for those who are low IQcels and can't get the definition of INCEL, I created a special topic with simple examples: ...


"compete for what?"

This is a good question (philosophical). I answer: Free will. Everyone decided does it make sense to compete or not. Sometimes maybe it is not worthy. Then, just geomaxx to a place with a bit better females.

That was how it started. And here is a link to the 500 Rejections. The first ever incel oriented free e-book about the rejections. 8)

Psychology / Rejections #3
« on: July 18, 2022, 02:36:07 AM »
Rejection #3

It's one of my first rejection abroad. One of the first university student females that talked with me in a train.

She was traveling with her brother and her family. She was very interested to talk to me and we had long conversation with her and from time to time with her and her brother. She looked very pretty, nice and honest. We talked about the different cities, her major, language questions and so on. At one point I asked her "Do you have a boy-friend?" and she said "No, I haven't." I believed her and even started to hope that she might be my future (soon to be) girlfriend.

Even I started to work in another city, I kept the hope that something will happen between us. I sent her emails, she answered but in one of the emails she said that she lied me about the boyfriend; in fact she had and has a boyfriend. I felt very, very sad and I felt so unhappy and betrayed. After that I stopped to write to her.

Years later, I decided to search her again. I found her and, as I expected, she was already married. We had some neutral chats and, of course, nothing more happened. She is still in my contacts but we didn't chat for a long time.

The incel.is's terms are a joke to their moderators. You already know from some of my previous posts here that they failed to keep their wiki's definition of "incel" (if you didn't, read in how this incels forum started).

Now I'd like to add that they (incel.is moderator staff) even don't keep their own terms. In their incels.is/help/terms/ they typed (or just copied from somewhere) that
You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws whatsoever.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What a joke, isn't it?

A fast checking:
1. No hateful content?
There are threads like "This cuck f*ggot from Quora doing something worse than abortion" and "To all low IQ lurking pieces of sh*t here: learn the f*cking difference".

So peaceful and friendly, isn't it?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

2. No abusive content?

 Look at this "mother-friendly"  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D thread "My stupid mother keeps talking" where the person said that "I'd kill her given a chance."

3. No threatening content.

 Like this: "next fag parade needs to be shot up ( in real life)"? Not threatening at all.  ;D ;D ;D

4. No adult content?

 Oh, sure!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D No need of examples because it's full there of exactly this kind of content!

5. No likely to offend content?

 Oh yeah!  ;D ;D ;D ;D For example, "Mothers should f... their sons if they're virgin at 14"


I don't want to comment anymore. Most of the threads there are totally against their own terms.


What do you expect from this new incels forum?

I'll tell you later what are my expectations. What about yours?

I'd like to add more here. Incels.is is banning many people. Some of them doesn't deserve to be banned.

I was banned because one moderator there (which is probably just a teenager who doesn't understand the definition of the "incel" and is too shortsighted to see (realize, understand) that banning many people is bringing just more enemies and/or more competitors) decided so based on my thread about the Donnelly study (there I saw his ban message which is
100% - Permaban not incel

So, here it is, you decide what's wrong with it (or, better to say, what's wrong with that moderator):

I started with this post:

"Some brocels think that incel = only the kissless virgins. :feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:
AT THE SAME TIME they don't mind the escorcels who share here how many prostitutes they f*...

I am something in between: I DO NOT use prostitutes but as a nearly 50 years old man I am NOT a kissless or virgin incel.

Just remember that incel = involuntarily celibate. NOT every incel is virgin. Just already around 10 years I can't find a single person to like me (those 2 "landwhales" are an exception).

REMEMBER: the Donnelly study, defined incels as all adults who fail to find a sexual partner for six months or more (Source: https://incels.wiki/w/Main_Page)

(As far as this Wiki is associated with this forum, I think this is the position of the owner of the forum too.)"

(I'm not a sizeist and I am against the discrimination. I use the word "landwhale" as a popular, joking word that describes the very obese people. Also I wanted to make myself there more clear because they audience seems to be youngcels and younger incels.)

One brocel (nickname "Lv99_BixNood") comment with two Chad emoticons and a ban hammer (banhammer) emoticon.

I reacted to this with
Lv99_BixNoodLv99_BixNood, how THE HELL, I am a Chad, when I am:​

- short
- bald
- poor
- old
- loveless ?

Improve your knowledge, bro. A low-tier gymcel as me is NOT a Chad.

Another brocel (nickname: decembrist_kirillov) comment that "what i know is: escortcels are not same as other incels. they are not incel at all." (It's something that I do think -- they're "not very incels", they're nearcels.)

Third brocel (nickname: Mecoja) comment that Bby this definition 90 percent of men are incels and 100 percent of teens and old guys also and asked me "Did they liked you ten years ago? :what:"

Fourth one (brocel with nickname "Monke") gave a good comment which was "Khhv superiority :feelsBox:"

The fifth one (brocel nicknamed "SoloAlex") comment that he agrees with me but six months is a joke. 10+ years is appropriate.

Another my comment was
Well, I also think that escortcels are nearcels (at least they have MONEY and they have SOME KiND OF FAKE SEX)... but still, nobody here think they're fakecels... At the same time some bitter brocels complain that if you have had a kiss or some success with a non-prostitute, you're a Chad.:feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha::feelshaha:

Just follow the SCIENTIFIC "INCEL" definition: the Donnelly study, defined incels as all adults who fail to find a sexual partner for six months or more (Source: https://incels.wiki/w/Main_Page)

SoloAlex added that he thinks that that brocel with the 2 Chads and the ban hammer emoticons just made a joke.

(I answered this:
I hope so. :)

I swear again that if I really find one women who loves me and I love her, I will be 99% with her and I am not going to lie the incels here that I'm a loner. The problem is that I am still not good enough and they ghost me or ignore me after a short chat.

A brocel (nickname: I.N.C.E.L.S. Boss) laughed about "six months" in that definition.

I answered that
Well, okay, let's say that 6 months is kind of short. But really, if an adult (not some acne teen who later is going to become a Norman or a Chad) can't find a women in 1 year (even after he tries almost everyday), than he should be considered as an incel. For example, if you try once a week, in a year, this makes 52 rejections. Pretty good number to be considered as an incel.

Acnecels if they're still teenagers can't be perceived as 100% truecels too because after the puberty most of them will be never acnecels again. I don't post this as a gate-keeping. Just want to give them a real and based hope.

I.N.C.E.L.S. Boss asked me "wtf are u doing here then" (because of my statement that "I am NOT a kissless or virgin incel.") I repeated for people like him that
The low IQcels can't get it! ONCE AGAIN:


The category incel is BROADER than "a virgin".


(reposted the intro post; ppl like him really don't read carefully or even when they read they can't understand well the meaning of the tsxts.)

SoloAlex added that if you try almost every day irl, inceldom is not your biggest problem.

Lv99_BixNood added that if one "got laid without paying before you're a low tier normie." He thinks that it's not unusual for lowtier normies to not get s. activity for years.

Answered him with:
- Low-tier gymcel

I work hard but I still can't get the Norman's level. I just mog the fat Normans but most of the tall ones still have more chance than me. So how I am a normie?

Follow the SCIENTIFIC DEFINITION: incel = "no true sex and no true love FOR A LONG TIME".

Remember INCEL is not only the kissless virgins. It a broader category.

I added this too:
For the lowest IQ brocels;

"Animal" is not only "a rabbit". "Animal" = "rabbit + turtle + tiger + panda + fly..."

"Country" is not only "USA". "Country" = "USA + Russia + India + Canada + China + Japan..."

"Incel" is not only "kissless virgins". "Incel" = "virgins, non-virgin husbandcels, non-virgin escorcels, divorced men who didn't have sex for a long time, failed Normans and Chads who became landwhales or extremely poor".

Lack of elementary logic?

Lv99_BixNood send 3 lul emoticons (luls; lulz) about the word "husbandcels". I saw he doesn't know it. So, I educated brocels like him with
Oh, you didn't know some husbands are sexless? Here:


I also asked them "Maybe 90% of the men are incels or nearcels. If you are a grown men and have to masturbate alone for YEARS, aren't you an incel?"

And a brocel (nickname: kaang) comment with "once a sex haver always a sex haver."

I told him and those who may think like him that
This definition limits the incels only to virgins.

Let me give you an understandable example with the Islam:

There are different Islamic countries: Turkey, Iran, Pakistan... but if you say Islam = only Turkey, you're limiting the Islam only to one of its domains.

Ex-sex havers are incels too.

If it's still difficult for some of you I can give you another example -- two homeless people. One was homeless forever the other lost his house recently. They're both homeless.

A brocel nicknamed "the virgin shepherd" asked me a private question "Are you older than Emba@Emba ?" and I answered that
How old is that brocel? I don't know him.
(I keep the non-doxx rules and I don't speak concretely date of birth, but I don't lie you -- I'm close to 50 y. o.)

I realized that no matter how well you keep the rules in Incels.is there is no guarantee that they're not going to ban you. A lot of not reasonable bans there.

A brocel with nickname "Ehwhatever" comment that "Frankly, the definition a single researcher isn't relevant to whether or not non-virgins who've had voluntary sex should be allowed. That's what this site and/or it's creators (not sure) decided. Voluntary sex is a no no.

Don't get me wrong I agree that some non-virgins, like those who actually lucked out or haven't had sex in decades, should be allowed. I think in some ways you'd be a beneficial user for the site but I guess you'll have to see if the mods like you enough to let voluntary sex slide."

My following 2 comments were:
Of course everything depends on the definition. There are ONLY A FEW INCELOLOGISTS around the world. The incelology is still a baby science.

But, the common sense, tells me that you can't exclude males who do masturbate ALONE for 5-10 years and to say "Long time ago they had sex 2 or 4 times. They're not virgins. So they are single and do masturbate in loneliness, but they're not incels."

It's like homeless.

SOME homeless people were born homeless. BUT MOST of the homeless had home before. If you exclude the ex-home homeless you're killing them. The same with the incels. If you want 100% of the incels to be included, then don't limit them only to "virgin = incel".

If you exclude incels, I think you have to start with the rich escortcels who have some sort of sex... they're the most nearcels.

A failed Norman who masturbates alone for decades is a non-cel? No way.


I know the kissless virgins do think they're "the most incel" and they jealous if some incel 25 years ago had a kiss. But this doesn't make him a non-cel if he has to sleep alone, to masturbate like a teen alone and to think "Am I such a big loser, why no women likes me?"

I also envy the richcels who can at least afford some paid love (even I am not a fan of the prostitution because it's sort of fake and surrogate sex), but... I never ever wanted these pity souls to be kicked off.

I hope all the brocels could support each other no matter that some of us are more lucky than others. We just CAN'T say "Only virgins here".

If this continues like this, well, someone else may create a more liberal Incels' forum where even the nearcels can post... and then what's the benefit for this community?

And I was like a prophet.  ;D We here really created a more liberal incels' forum where even the nearcels can post. Of course we can't allow the abnormal things like rape propagandas, murdering propagandas and so on. That's why we're not 100% liberal. It's impossible.

A brocel with nick "Broly" asked "Only 6 months?" to which I answered him that
Depends on how many you meet in these 6 months. I think so: if every day you try with 1 fem. and you failed, it makes 182-183 rejections for the 6 months. If 100+ women rejected you then YOU = INCEL. Isn't it?

Another brocel (nick: "IncelHeII") said angrily that we don't need to pay attention to the "doncucklly study"  ;D ;D ;D (how creative!) and asked "how bout that. Foids could solve the incel problem but they rather get pump n dumped and wait for rich chad". Honestly, it's a very interesting topic and in the future we may discuss that thing that is known as "s. charity" online.

Some "Balding Subhuman" comment that it's "Inceltear seething"...


And the rest was:

ugly_genius: "lol @ "6 months or more"... :feelsohh:

Then again, I guess most people (even a lot of reasonably ok 'incels') couldn't begin to fathom the exponential rate of decay once the time frame extends way beyond just "6 months". I'd like to see Donnely et al try a study on those who have had absolutely zero female contact - not even hugs or hands - (outside of obvious family hellos and byes). For anything upward of 15 years minimum.

If they were able to collect a big enough sample size, I bet the results would be horrific.

I'm living proof closing in on 40 and absolute zilch. The results are actual physical anatomical deterioration and damage. And on par with cancer.

The mind/soul is a precious thing. Guard it. Treasure any relationships you've ever had the chance to have, no matter how small they may be.

There's a lot of things humans take for granted and don't realize what the implications would be if they were removed."

Well, I only want all the incel bros to be included because the life for every incel is harsh, no matter what was your past, if you NOW have no love, you're a half man...

mechashota: "i think this forum is wayyyy to up their own asses about what constitutes a fakecel , but arguing that you can have sex and be an incel is interesting to say the least" (I also think that many of the incel.is moderators and users have no good idea what really "incel" is.)

The brocel turbosperg said: "31% of 18-22 males in the USA haven't had sex in the previous year.

Some are virgins, but many had sex more than 12 months ago. They are incels too.

Just like someone who is jobless for 6 months is a fucked-up jobless, even if they've had a gig 6 months ago by some luck of life."

I answered him
@turbospergturbosperg very good example, brocel! This is what I am trying to tell them.

I added about the other one:
"can have sex and be an incel"

Only the escortcels can have it. Otherwise, even many of the husbandcels can't receive sex from their wives (who cheat on them or are just really frigid.)

After these - Lux: (I'll edit the most sensitive words) "An incel is a virgin guy or guy that did not had a sexual contact involving his p. or the c. of a female. Does not have to be KHHV, but HAS to be VIRGIN."

Indari: "autistic gatekeeping definitions are autistic, yet normgroids will use the malleability of the definition to portray inklers in the worst light always"

Emba: "Six months is a gdmf dry spell!

I know Normie's with that amount of time between gfs!

only If you measure it in decades do you get realcels! ButbA few years? It's only technically incel! But IRL that's pretty common too! And not incel...

As far as time period for legit inceldom, I say 1+ or maybe 2 decades! Depends on age.

A drunk one night stand should count! (Since subconsciously she accepted you! Unless it was rape...)

And raping you're sister doesn't count!
(Does rape count? "Asking for a fren" lol!)

I think I still qualify as legit incel, because I count whores as voluntary sex! And it's been 2+ decades!

Too bad this idiot could not be more PC! Ic? Rules? Read them!"

I don't understand who is the "idiot" in question. Hope it's not me because I'm too educated to be called so. If someday Emba come here, I'll be glad he to explain what he meant!


The words that we, the normal incels and the normal netizens, should avoid

Well, you already saw the rules, didn't you?

Let's add the words that we all, as normal incels (or other kind of normal netizens) should avoid to use.


The so-called "n word" or "N word".

Well, it's a word that many people think is racist and offensive. "N" is for "nigger", which some spell like "nigga", "neggar", "negga" and so on.
 Yes, I know many black people use it between themselves and some non-black use it as a joke or as a friendly and non-racist slang. But still, better to avoid it and instead to use words like:

- boy
- man
- fellow (fella)
- bro (brother)
- guy
- colleague
- comrade
- mister
- sir
- something else which is polite and non-racist.


The word "noodlewhore" (pl. "noodlewhores")

 In some incel communities there is a slang (jargon) which points to different races and/or nationalities of incels and females. Many of them are acceptable because they're not having some offensive connotation (for example many East-Asian incels are cooking rice so they're "ricecels" or "rice-cels". India is famous with its curry, so the Indian, Nepali and other incels are known as "currycels" or "curry-cels").
 OK, but when in some word there is a dirty and/or offensive part like "-whore" we should avoid it. Many impolite (or just not enough educated) incels call the East-Asian and other mongoloid women "noodlewhores" or "noodle-whores". Obviously it's offensive and misogynistic. Yes, noodles are a part of the Eastern cuisine -- from Japan to Tatarstan but you can't imply that all the Asian females are with bad sexual moral! So, if you want to call them with a slang (jargon) word, use the word "noodlefoids" or "noodlefems". As far as "foid" comes from "female human/humanoid" it may be considered as a neutral slang word, so it's okay.
The same about "currywhores" and others like "-sluts".


"ER" (as a verb like "to ER them")

ER as a noun is just the abbreviation of "Elliot Roger" (a fakecel killer who made the bad popularity for all of the incels around the world and who doesn't deserve even to be noted here but there is no way because we want to avoid the problems). When some radical incels or "incels" (incel extremists, fakecel trolls, psycho incels and others) use it as a verb "to ER" it means "to kill" or "to mass kill", to "do a terrorist attack". So we can't use violence and hate speech that's why all these "ER them", "to ER", "will ER" and so on, should be banned.



 A racist, offensive word which some impolite or badly educated incels, including racists, use to call the African (Black; negroid) females. It comes from baboon (a primate, a monkey) so it's not a good word. Avoid this word, please!


Those "-skin" words

Well, there are some words who are not perceived as offensive amongst the incels in some communities but they sound/look racist or at least colorist (colourist). Use normal words like "white skin/pale skin", "dark skin", "yellow skin", "black skin", "brown skin", not those disgusting "shit-skin" (they use it for the darker, brownish skinned people), "cum-skin" (for the white, European, Caucasian people)...


Common and well-known non-incel slang words which are offensive too

At the end, I can't think of other incel slang (jargon) related words so let's just finish it with the rest of the offensive words that everybody knows. Don't use "moron", "idiot", "retard", "autist" and so on.

I was thinking about the escortcels. We should include as more as possible categories of incels here: fatcels, femcels, shortcels, baldcels, husbandcels... plus noncels (like Chads (handsome and successful males), Normans (average males), nearcels, researchers, females with boyfriends and husbands, feminists who want to share their thinking and views, etc.) but... the escortcels will be a sort of problem because:

1/ the adult content here is forbidden and they want to share their adult experience... they'll be banned if they do so.
2/ being an escortcel makes you already almost ascended (yes, it's not a true escaping the inceldom because the escorts are providing you surrogate s. activity but still, what "celibate" is it if you're a "s. haver'?!) To me they're something like nearcels. I wouldn't call them "fakecels" and I'm against the door keeping (I wish everyone who is good to be included but just to inform them earlier that it'll be not a good idea if they're escortcels and they share their concrete s. experience here).

Psychology / Rejection #2
« on: July 16, 2022, 11:05:22 PM »
Rejection #2

It was late, around 10:00 p. m. Walking alone to home after a long working day. I prefer to walk, instead of all those buses, taxis, bike and so on. I have no car too. Walking gives me a way to burn some calories (of course only this is not enough to lose weight but it's like an additional help). I felt a girl (a bit younger than me, that time, it was around 2005) walking behind me. Soon she started to walk next to me. I felt she is interested to have some chat with me. We said "Hi" to each other. Later we exchanged our e-mails.

After some e-mails we had a date. The date was simple, in a local Mc Donald's. I paid a hamburger for her and a soft drink. We talked and she said she'll call me again.

I was glad. Even started to prepare some topics for our next date. Started to think where to take her next time. What clothes to wear. I was much naive that time and I believed that if a person say "I will call you again and we'll meet again." it's 100% true. Later I realized that many people like her don't care about honesty. She never call me again, never sent a single e-mail again. I was totally ghosted and rejected!

Months later I met her in the chat (we used mIRC that time). She said nothing about her dishonest behavior. The same nothing happened. Instead she tried to introduce me some uglier friend of her (probably a girl who nobody wants to date). I didn't mind to date an uglier girl because I'm not so into the looks. I value things beyond the looks (like hygiene, honesty, education, same hobbies and so on) but I was so disappointed that I refused to meet her and her uglier female friend. I even told her something like

"Don't bother me please! I have a girlfriend now. Probably going to get married soon."

Her answer was highly impudent like: "Oh, yeah? Then may we (me and my friend) meet you both and to join your wedding."

I deleted this person and never ever wanted to chat with her again.

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