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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Genetics - Personal efforts - Individual's taste

« on: August 24, 2022, 04:10:27 AM »

 I like to be real and honest with my followers, readers and people who spend time to learn something here. So, I'll illustrate it with my recent experience. As I told you already in that post I'm becoming more and more good at different sports (I develop different skills -- martial arts since I was 5 y. o. till now and recently more bodybuilding, fitness, aerobics, yoga, etc.) and I spend hours day by day to improve my force, speed and body's image. (Of course I don't neglect my intellectual hobbies like learning more about psychology, anthropology, Altaistics, Sinology and so on.) And, as a result, now I'm looking better than let's say 10 years ago (I can't compete with my youngest self when I was 24 for example but I look much better than when I was 36). So, due to this improvement (which many incels will just call "gymmaxx") I can see the positive outcomes when it comes to receiving likes, attention, interest.
 Years ago there weren't females who will say even a "Hi!" to me. But today (in fact, yesterday  ) when I had a long 3-hours walk in different city's areas (boulevards, streets, schools, beaches and a park) I met at least 5 young women and a few middle-aged women who greeted me or showed their interest in another way. (By the way, I'm glad to inform you that a female nearcel who followed my advises -- to lose weight, to limit her unhealthy habits, to color her white hair, to change her style and to socialize a bit more -- get married and she's not a single female nearcel anymore.) These two concrete examples are here to make you more confident that via right personal efforts and right socialization you have more chances to ascend.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Genetics - Personal efforts - Individual's taste

« on: August 24, 2022, 03:32:53 AM »

About the Relationship Genetics - Personal efforts - Individual's taste

  Let's start with this triplets experiment (triplets thought experiment). The triplets have got one and the same DNA (although there are some environmental factors that could switch certain genes throughout a triplet’s lifetime), i. e. the same genetics (so they are identical).
 Now let's suppose that they were average people, separated for some years (because they were adopted by three different adoptive parents/families). The first triplet was adopted by foodies (gastronomes) who don't like sports. He's becoming an obese person. The second one was adopted by an average family who raised him as an average person (not overweight, but also not having a ripped body). The third one was adopted by health and fitness freaks who made him to be a person with good-looking skin, muscular body and hygienic looks.
 Now, if they go to have a long walk along the beach and meet the there around 100 females, guess what will be the outcome? 
 1. The first triplet will receive around 0% to 1% likes. (There are those rare cases when present days females like and do prefer obese males.)
 2. The second triplet will receive around 5% likes.
 3. The third one will receive 20% likes.
 If you illustrate it with dots, it looks like:
 .
 .....
 ....................
 Let's now think of some another environment, like these triplets do the same but in a place where the females' individual tastes are different (for example, if the triplets are white they go to a country where many of the locals prefer whiter skins and white race or, the opposite, if they're yellow they go to a country where many of the locals are fans of all those K-pop, J-pop, Q-pop guys or just like males who remind them of Bruce Lee, Jet Lee, Bolo Yeung, Donnie Yen and so on). There (in that kind of new environment, where the individual tastes are more beneficial for them) the outcome may be like:

1. 5%
2. 40%
3. 90%

.....
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Let's continue this thought experiment with incel-tier triplets. If they're something like average incels (let's say 2/10 incels) then the expectations may be like:

1. 0%
2. 0%
3. 2%

(in the first environment)

and

1. 1%
2. 10%
3. 20%

(in the second environment).

 For all those incels and noncels who didn't understand it, let's think of all this in another way (from a typical male incel perspective using some of the incels' slang words):
 Imagine that there are female triplets. They've got 100% the same genetics but the first one started to eat a lot and didn't sport, the second one just remain the same and the third one healthmaxxes and gymmaxxes her. So, at the end, you're seeing a so-called landwhale, an average Becky and a Stacylite. Who are you going to like most?
 Well, most of the incels do not like obese females and the first triplet is not going to receive many likes. Some (to many) incels do prefer Beckies (average looking girls because they want someone closer to their looks and/or they worry that too pretty females are more difficult to be with). So the average looking triplet will receive more (or the most in some cases) likes. And the prettiest triplet will receive the most (or at least will be "the second best") likes.
 

So, what kind of conclusion we may make?

 I think that the most reasonable conclusion is:
 1. The genetics (genome; DNA) is something that you can't control. It's a constant. This gives you basis but later it's not the one and only factor.
 2. The personal efforts (and life choices, orientations, deeds, etc.) are a "game changer". A very important factor. Depending on you minn yourself or maxx yourself (you're becoming a worse version of yourself or a better version of yourself) the outcomes are different. Your attractiveness  and your personal efforts are just directly proportional.
 3. The environment (location; concrete people, socio-economical and cultural conditions) is the second very important game changing factor.
 Hence, even the genetic factor is unavoidable and basic we, if we have a metapilled (objective, scientific and balanced) thinking, should say that we shouldn't over exaggerate it. We have to pay more attention to the other two factors (the personal efforts and the individuals' tastes) where we have full control or some control (we have full control of what we can improve, maxx in ourselves (like gymmaxx, studymaxx, healthmaxx, moneymaxx, etc.) and we can influence our luck via meeting more people and/or going to more places, i. e. socialmaxx, geomaxx, etc.)

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Different Topics and Answers to a Foreigner in China who blocked me in 微信

« on: August 23, 2022, 10:31:19 PM »

 Looks like the same one.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: What are these landwhales?

« on: August 23, 2022, 02:54:24 AM »

 I don't like slangs like these. They're kind of sizeism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sizeism). But usually people who are obese and can't deal with the weight loss are lacking the knowledge how to count the calories and/or lazy do become sporty. There are also those obese people who doesn't care about or deny their obesity.
 Something useful: "How everyone can lose weight 100% naturally and 100% successfully" https://www.amazon.com/everyone-lose-weight-naturally-successfully-ebook/dp/B086RHP18Y.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / That real "Maybe he roped" problem

« on: August 23, 2022, 12:34:52 AM »

About the "Maybe he roped" problem

(Mostly caused by the so-called "roping" (suicide) subcultural incelospherian phenomenon

  The life isn't easy and it's getting harder for the poorest people around the world in the recent years. Many people, especially when they lack something important (like love, what is the incels' case) are getting more desperate and in some cases more suicidal (deeply unhappy and/or depressed and likely to commit suicide). They need support, understanding, some kind of real help! But when instead of these (support, understanding and real help) the incels (and all the rest of the desperate people) receive only (or mostly) attacks, rudeness plus perpetual statements like "It's over.", "Never began.", "There is no any hope for the incels." with all those rope (roping) memes, then this is nothing but a reinforcement of the suicidism amongst the incels who participate in all those pessimistic (a.k.a. "blackpilled") communities. If we use the incelospherian slang -- the  "ropefuel" reinforces the suicides.
 Long time ago, when I was in the university, the rhetorics teacher decided to make an exercise (a rhetoric exercise which is a form of training used to prepare the philosophy students to practically apply rhetorical skills in public speaking, debate, persuasion, politics, philosophy and all other fields in which rhetoric can be useful) about the suicide. It was something like "Pro-suicide or anti-suicide" (in nowadays' terminology you can think of it as "pro-euthanasia arguments" VS "anti-euthanasia arguments"). The university students in my group had to form (choose) two groups -- the "pro-suicide group" or the "anti-suicide group". I decided that there should be a "neutral group" which will be "pro- or anti- it depends..." I'm telling you this just to know that I am objective and I don't think that the only right position is "anti-euthanasia" and "anti-suicide". So, I am not a part of the "the oppressive system in which suicidal people experience forms of injustice and violence" (See "Suicidism: A new theoretical framework to conceptualize suicide from an anti-oppressive perspective" by Alexandre Baril). I was, from the very beginning (1993/1994) when we discussed this problem in the university a person who defends the critical suicidology.
 But, as far as, most of the inceldom cases (and problems) are solable (able to be solved) I disagree with all those pessimistic, pro-suicide reinforcing thoughts and behavior blackpillismic incels (and self-proclaimed incels, fakecels, nearcels, noncels and others)! They just make incels, self-proclaimed incels, fakecels, nearcels and other failed in love (and relationships) people to become more suicidal than they will become usually and this is already a problem because it leads people with chances to believe that they're chanceless and then they make wrong life/death choices.
 Incels (and other similar people like nearcels, etc.) who are more positive, realistic (like learning more about the metapill theory and how to escape the inceldom) can't easily commit suicides.
  And now, concretely about this "Maybe he roped" topic.
 "Maybe he roped." is a sort of standard response to an observation that some incel (or perceived as an incel) has been absent from the incelosphere (incels social groups, chat groups, forums, etc.) for a long time (or just when someone deemed to be on the inceldom spectrum has not given a sign of life online and offline for a long time).
 What's wrong with these responds (replies; comments)?

• They reinforce the pessimistic and suicidal thinking. They imply that if a person is absent online he "maybe roped", the same as there are no other dozens of reasons like the person is busy with something else, tired of all that blackpillism (pessimism), decided to self-improve (maxxing) and hence staying away from all of these discouraging communities...
• They don't even think of (or don't dare) to suppose that he ascended (escaped the inceldom; found a girlfriend, a lover, a wife...) In fact, in some cases they may be banned for this kind of statements and when themselves sometimes succeed to ascend (and want to keep their accounts active) they have to keep secret about it because ex-incels are unwelcome.

As an advice: when you're depressed don't read pessimistic blackpill materials, focus more on the realistic redpill and the scientific, objective metapill; give yourself more time and try more to maxx yourself; don't minn yourself; after some years the situation may be totally different and all of you to have more chances than now. Don't kill yourself rashly because you can't unkill (revive) yourself.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / What is "subhuman" (an incels' slang term) and why I am against it

« on: August 21, 2022, 03:20:09 AM »

About the term "subhuman"

  It's not the nazi, racist term "subhuman" ("Untermensch"). It's another one, a comparatively new incels' term, which is often used (ironically or even seriously) by incels most often to describe themselves, but in some cases also to describe others.
 Depends on the context, it can have multiple meanings like "Incels not look human", "Incels are not considered as humans by others". In some rare cases some incels consider themselves better than other people and call them "subhuman".
 After you got the meanings of this term now let me show you an article of mine where I explain why do I disagree this term to be used for describing an incel or another human being: The incels calling themselves "sub-human" are wrong.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: That "mog" problem

« on: August 21, 2022, 02:35:15 AM »

 Mostly it's useless (unless it's not a motivation for you to try to improve yourself -- for instance you're looking at somebody who is having better body and you're not just thinking "He mogs me!" but immediately starting to think of a better diet, better physical exercises, more sports and so on.)
 When it comes to mogging (a.k.a. "amogging") I often think about this photo: -- Bruce Lee and Van Williams. I'm sure there are many incels who're going to say that Van Williams mogs Bruce Lee (mostly because he's taller than Bruce Lee) but I can't see how it is a problem once Mr Lee has a better built body, better martial skills and better popularity (at least now -- almost everyone knows Bruce Lee but who knows who was the actor Van Williams, especially the ones who're not from the USA?)
 So here are my 2 good suggestions when you feel you're a "moggee" (or a "mog-victim"):
 

• Use it as a motivation; as a challenge to get better in this mog-area. For example, he's lean, you're fat. Start a weight loss plan; he has bigger muscles and you're skinny. Start a bodybuilding activity!
• If you can't do anything about the certain mogging (for example he's tall and you're short or he has hair and you're bald) or if you don't like to compete in this certain field (for example his English is better than yours but you dislike learning English) then you can just compensate with something else. Some examples: you can compensate your shortness with gymmaxxing and your baldness with artmaxxing; you can compensate your poor English with learning Japanese or Spanish, Korean or Portuguese... (if the languages are not "your cup of tea" then learn some new skill like yoga or playing guitar).

There are many options. Don't let the mogging to discourage you; let it to motivate you becoming a better you.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: That is why we should be incels without hate (and supportive)

« on: August 21, 2022, 01:28:27 AM »

 The problem of this person is that he uses a misogynist term when he means "woman", "female", "girl" (he calls the females "toilets"). So, I do agree with his opinion that incels should be positive towards each other but because in this incel board we only promote and support the normality and we're against the sexism in any form I had to point out that calling a woman or a girl "toilet" is wrong and not acceptable.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Different Topics and Answers to a Foreigner in China who blocked me in 微信

« on: August 21, 2022, 12:55:33 AM »

 Just DON'T doxx him or others!
 Low IQ -- yes, normie (normal) -- not sure. Well, if you mean the looks -- I'd say, he's a typical "Tanner" (for those who doesn't know the terminology, it's a "5" (on the decile chart). A Tanner fits between a Melvin (a low-tier Norman), a Norman and a Brad.)
  To be honest, yes, there are some people who after years realize that I was right and the decent ones even coming to search me and to say "Sorry!" or to thank me for being the one who showed them that they're wrong and they can improve (to become more knowledgeable, more polite and balanced and more understanding others, and the world.)

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Eastern things / 불닭 (Buldak) -- a Chicken dish from Korea

« on: August 19, 2022, 03:33:40 AM »

Buldak (불닭)

  불닭 (buldak) is "fire chicken" in Korean. It's a Korean dish which is a spicy chicken dish.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / The 7 dwarfs

« on: August 19, 2022, 03:16:23 AM »

 The seven dwarfs (from "Snow White").  Seven shortcels, aren't they? 

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / A Chinese saying for the incels around the world

« on: August 19, 2022, 03:03:44 AM »

 I want to add a Chinese saying for the incels from all around the world: "无论成功与否，都要努力。" (Translation/meaning: "No matter you'll succeed or you'll fail, you have to do your best.")
 This is not just about to approach; it's also about your self-improvement (self-maxx) in all the possible ways (body, mind, status, health). This is the rightest way.
 And don't search for excuses. I'll give you this clear example (comparing me (living currently in limitations -- temporary static management, lack of jobs/very limited earnings, etc) and a rich incel.)
 Let me first start with him. He's rich, he has a mother to take care of him and he's living in a developed country (one of the most developed in the world; a Western one). His average day is: just reading stuff online, participating in a toxic incels community (full of criminal incels, desperate incels, stupid incels, radicalized incels, disoriented incels, suicidal incels and of course some normal incels but the majority are getting abnormal); his only "walk" is to the toilet and back. He eats like a hog (for example, a few pizzas with some packs of chips) and drinks a lot of sugar containing sodas. Probably he consumes more than 6000-7000 calories per day and then he thinks that being a fatcel is a "genetic problem". He is also a mentalcel and often has problems with his anger management (online) plus he's obviously drinking hard alcoholic drinks or smoking marijuana. He is an intelligent person (reads and learns a lot, at least online) and he can tell things that most of the incels (including the scientists and philosophers among them) will be glad to read and discuss. A person with relatively high IQ. But... he just can't start to improve himself (he thinks that he's a 2/10 to 2.5/10 incel. Which means that if he lose weight, gain some muscle mass, start to have a good food and beverage healthy diet and keep the good learning, he'll get at least a 4/10 level, and I'll add a "1" more because as I said he's a rich young man -- so practically he'll be a 5/10 man, which means a Normanlite to GigaNorman and with some fashion-maxx, location-maxx and personality-maxx, he's totally able to become a Bradlite which is something around 6.5/10). Yes, but he just hasn't the will to start it (I think he has the enough IQ but the EQ and the willpower are his big problems). So he's just going online, eating, drinking, smoking, going to the toilet, having some controversies with his mother and... sleeping.
 Now, compare my day:
 1. Getting up, showers, having some light food (a cucumber with some dumplings and an orange), drinking green tea and mineral water.
 2. Push-ups, dumbbell exercises, chest expander exercises.
 3. Playing some chess; posting some answers online.
 4. Step aerobics.
 5. Drinking some milk, relaxing with some Eastern stuff like learning something new about Korea.
 6. Yoga.
 7. Learning some new foreign language words, expressions, grammar.
 8. Going out, pull-ups, jogging. Light dinner (vegetable salad with some 0 calorie drink)
 9. Taking a long night walk. Practicing old and new fighting techniques (MMA, TKD, Kyokushin karate, Thai boxing).
 10. Home again, shower, mineral water and chrysanthemum tea, watching some night TV, reading news online, learning new scientific information, posting here...
 
 Well, compare and think about it. Why he's rich and young but looks like an obese grandpa and I'm an uncle but I do look (according to some of the incels) like a Chadlite (and I feel way better -- happier, healthier, balanced, more optimistic and full of force and will to struggle, to try, to win, to achieve).

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: The Hypergamy

« on: August 18, 2022, 06:45:51 PM »

 To summarize what incels like/want is the same as to summarize what the Japanese want or what the cooks want. Everybody wants something different. Like some Japanese want to be anime creators, others to be karate-do masters... some cooks want to work in 5 star hotel, others to have own restaurant... you understand the analogy, right?
 Well, there were some polls that showed that some groups of incels do really prefer women who rank 7/10 to 10/10 (the Stacies and Gygastacies) but there are many incels who're not going to be with such a woman at least because they think of these super pretty and attractive females as promiscuous or just "out of my league" and "not my looksmatch".
 It's a myth that most of the people (males or females) target the most good-looking persons. Many of the incels and the average (Normans) will just be okay with a moderately good-looking girl that they like but at the same time not attracting most of the other males; once in a TV show I saw a Chinese woman who rejected a handsome Chinese man (a so-called Chang in incels' slang) because many other Chinese women applauded him and liked him. She said: "I don't like this type of too handsome man when the other women will say "Wow! " I need a less attractive person."
 The highest IQ males (incels or not) know that the beauty isn't all and they look beyond it; they'll search not just for a pretty but clever, reasonable, not hysterical, clean, moral and skillful woman.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Why some incels think that femcels are zero

« on: August 18, 2022, 06:28:41 PM »

 It's in fact, not that simple.
 Sure, most of the incels (but only these online) are teenagers or young college/university students and your workers (or jobless) people who tend to be less informed about the female inceldom and who also tend to be more selfish and self-oriented (like "I do care only about the male inceldom and especially about my own malecel inceldom!")
 And, sure, there are female incels (femcels) -- for example these females (femcels) who are concretely poorcels (poor femcels) in places without communications (especially without internet; which we may consider as locationcels, location femcels too), disabledcels (disabled femcels; challenged femcels), standardcels (femcels with high standards), volcels (female volcels), oldcels (old femcels), mentalcels (female mentalcels) and probably some other categories.
 But, nobody can argue, the smv of the female gender is higher (i. e. the average female is able to find a love partner much better and faster than her male equivalent). As another educated friend (a female) said, "Before I met you I knew nothing about this topic. But I did some research online and it's huge. Of course, it is mostly involving men, so I didn't pursue it very deeply, but this is a significant movement." So, there is no person on Earth, male or female, who's going to argue that for the males is easier or for the females is harder... And here comes the answer -- some of the incels just make the wrong logical conclusion "For the women is easier = all the women got it = there are no femcels." or another better but not completely true too "Femcel = Female volcel" with a variant "Femcel = Female standardcel".
 It's normal. When they grow up they'll see that it's not that elementary. If everyone understands well the matter of human love (and the inceldom concretely) then there will be no incelologists like me. You just can't expect all of the people to be educated, knowledgeable and informed. The majority of the people around the world aren't that educated, knowledgeable and informed.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Different Topics and Answers to a Foreigner in China who blocked me in 微信

« on: August 18, 2022, 06:03:54 PM »

About the contributions... Look, obviously as you all see the person lacks of respect, basic ethic norms, etc. I can't argue. But the contributions... let's think about it deeply. Sure, taking photos and creating some art (I suppose he can be included in the "artist" category but I don't understand photography art, so I have no idea what is the real art quality and value of his works) isn't some sort of great contribution to the Chinese people, PRC and the socialism but as long as he's not doing something illegal and his labor is honest he should have the right to be in China. And I am saying it now because I like him very much (you know that I have very negative emotions towards him but... don't need to describe anymore because he'll say again that I'm "dangerous") but because there are many Chinese like him who reside in Europe and other countries and who are also not so contributive there -- for example they have hairdresser salons, restaurants, clothes shops... Are these salons, restaurants and shops more contributive than J.'s photography services? Not at all. Chinese can make own photos, Europeans can make their own salons, food and clothes... but if Chinese would like to live in Europe (or another place) -- let them be (as far and as long as they don't break the rules there) and if Europeans like him would like to live in China -- let him be (also as far and as long as he doesn't break the rules here).