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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 15, 2022, 02:58:29 AM »

 Seems most of the US incels are blackpilled so we can't expect to be here where the metapill theory is respected.
 The blackpillers just want to do nothing, to hate the women, to search excuses not to maxx... and they just tend to self-pity and ldar ("lay down and rot"). But, of course, it'll be fun if some of them come here and give it a try.
 

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 15, 2022, 02:53:46 AM »

Ow, man, your mother is really sort of "tiger mommy". But what... at least now she treats you more as a person. Could be worse. Don't think about the past and focus on your development. You're clever.

Can't say she is a tiger mommy of course but I don't think she really 'loves' me.
I mean she reproduced me most likely on the purpose of making usage of me as a 'human endowment insurance' or something like that.
Every Chinese parents reproduce just for that reason because of the toxicities in the Chinese culture.
I don't like the sterilization to be profitable. It is just one of the crystals of romance.

哎呦！不要这样吧。 ;D肯定也有因为爱孩子的父母。你这样说的，老外们可以觉得全部的中国人是没有”灵魂“的，机器人一样。
 What I mean is, you're a Chinese person and when you speak like this many of the foreigners will think that all of the Chinese are like biorobots who just produce kids (in fact there are racists who think exactly the same and hate Chinese very much). Just accept that there are also loving parents who really like kids (and they even don't give them pressure). I was a teacher for a long time in China, so I met hundreds of kids and parents. 是的，有些家长是你说的，可是也有好多不给孩子压力的。我教过了在黑龙江，吉林，辽宁，广东，海南。。。。。。 那里都有老虎家长，可是也有关心孩子们的，也有那些一点都不管的。Stereotyping all the Chinese isn't good.
 For example, now I asked the Polish comrade how he thinks about the females in Poland, to make a description, but I don't expect that 100% of the Polish are the same. Chinese are also people -- some are what you say, but also there are others, including child-free (丁克) people.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 15, 2022, 02:43:01 AM »

Not to interrupt but nobody's from the USA here currently. Mostly European and Chinese members.

Why does this forum not have Americans may I ask? Thought America is the genesis of incel culture so it owns the largest incel population?

Because this forum was created as an Omnilogy (everything-logy, 全学，全部知识) forum. The incel (normal incels without hate) is a recent project and we're still not popular in the USA.

Here we had an American grandpa who was a wise man but a traditionalist. And one day I shared that I am a gay (I like ladyboys most) and he felt sick and left us. I think it was my fault.

Well, he said he's a "security freak" and maybe when found us that here are Chinese and people who live in China, he got a bit uneasy and left... or just got disappointed that here didn't meet some hot girls?  Joking, of course, but everything is possible. Anyway, we miss him.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 15, 2022, 02:40:34 AM »

 Well, I'm a philosopher (Master's degree) and I learned Marxism-Leninism too. Have to say that Lenin was a good communist philosopher and he added some value to the original Marx and Engels works. About Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot -- okay, we can agree that it's already too much but to Lenin it was okay.
 I am also a person who lived during the Soviet era (our country was the closest satelite of the USSR) and we had people who visited there, pen-pals from the USSR and tourists. I ensure you that the USSR wasn't so bad as you read now in some anti-communist shallow propaganda websites or e-books. Yes, there were problems but people had security, free hospitals, free education, cheap prices, developed science and culture, amazing TV productions for young people and kids. Many people still miss this country and they're still alive so, as a young and clever man, don't blindly believe all what you read in English. (By the was I read in Russian too and I can tell you that the science and history in Russian has good sources).
 USSR wasn't good for the people during Stalin and the late Gorbachev, but during, for example, Brejnev it was one of the best countries in the world and even surpassed some of the Western developed countries in many fields (economy, science, society). Something like China -- yes, now China is not that great, but when I came here in 2004 (and to 2017) it was a good place for most of the people. Everything depends on the leaders of the country. Compare for example Trump's America and Biden's America. If you think the things dialectically (辩证法地), you will find out that it's not only static or only white-black/black-white. There are nuances (细微的差别) which make the pictures more clear when you know them.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 15, 2022, 01:49:26 AM »

Enlighten3d, I am glad to see a person with balanced and reasonable, objective thinking when it comes to the own country! I mean, I don't like those nationalists who will say "Everything is perfect!" or those never satisfied who will say "Everything sucks in my land!" Good to see a man who can analyze well.

Are the majority of Polish females picky when it comes to looks? ("Chad only!" attitudes or something?) Are there many gold-diggers ("Beta-buxx" oriented?) What's your opinion? (I am asking because seems like you're giving objective info about it.) I know only one Polish woman and she is intelligent (knows some history and politics, also reads the news and speaks well English) but we don't chat about love topics and I even don't know what's her male ideal, so asking you to describe a "present picture" of the inceldom and females in Poland (if you want even start a new topic).

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 15, 2022, 01:43:26 AM »

So according to all of your narrations of posts, you are living in China now on the private tutoring, collecting the trashes, and the online earnings, as a native American?

  After I said

I am from Europe, never been to USA, living in China since 2004.

I am a "native American"?  Focus, my friend! If I was a native English speaker, the 2017 law that forbids/limits the non-native English speakers to teach English in China couldn't affect me! The US citizens in China are still okay and can find jobs easily.
 Also, there is this attitude in China -- many Chinese do hate USA but at the same time do admire the USA.  Something very ambivalent! There are also those Chinese who're treating you well until they think you're from the USA. Once they understand you're not from the US but from a small, poor European country, they're losing interest. 

It sounds terrible that China welcomes the foreigners like this, and I don't even know that.

During the Hu Jintao's period China was very, very friendly and international. Later, China became more xenophobic and now for the foreigners (especially the poor ones and the non-native English speakers) the situation is not easy.

I am feeling sorry for you and since you are a foreginer you should make livings in taiwan hk or other asian countries, instead of China.

I chose China because I am a socialist and I hoped here I can live a real socialistic life (like the one I lived in Bulgaria till 1989) but later I saw that I am wrong -- here the situation becomes more feudal.

 

China is screwing many people up psychiatrically by its alienately horrendous involutions, clearly and unflexibly differentiated social-economic stratums, desperates concerning the prospectives of life, and joblessnesses, etc.. So in all senses China is now a tremendous cesspool and you should seek for better lives by moving to other countries. Again, very sorry for what you are experiencing in China now, ad infinito!

Well, it's still okay for the rich Chinese and the rich foreigners. But, I do agree, that there is regress recently due to the emperorization.

I still don't get why you think China is good, except its safety.

 I like Chinese culture and concretely the Chinese food, Chinese music, Chinese martial arts and I like the looks of the Chinese people (I am not a racist but to me the average yellow woman looks prettier than the average white woman or average black woman)... And as I said, I believe that China will build the socialism with Chinese characteristics but I was wrong.

You shoulda migrated into the Nordic.

There I could be a dish washer or cleaner. These rich, tall, white Europeans (Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland,...) don't feel people like me from South-East Europe are very precious; many of them think of us as poor, "black", second-hand people. In China -- most of the Chinese will see me as a real white man and here I was at least a teacher. Do you understand the different level?
 Also, I don't understand their languages but I do speak Chinese well; I don't like the cold, dark (long nights), depressing (high rate of suicides) north European nature... and I even don't think that most of the people are pretty/handsome there. So, why I have to go to a place where I like nothing and where nobody will like me? 
 Everyone shoud choose wisely where to live and where he/she looks better, being treated better, can find better job and feels better. 北欧就不适合我，对我来说最好的是东亚，东南亚。这边我又高，又人家会喜欢我，又不会有人说我的国籍是差的（当然他们更爱美国人，可是还没有北欧的和西欧的歧视），又（以前）会当外语老师。还有，我原来是社会主义的，中国粉丝的人。所以选了这边，可是最近越来越皇帝化了，封建化了，所以如果到三月份还是老样子的，就要润。

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:57:34 PM »

 I see.
 I wonder (if it's not too private), how does your mother think of you now, after you achieve more in your life? Does she praise you more (or at least stopped to criticize you)? Or she remains the same "never satisfied mother" with non-stop "I want more! It's nothing!"?

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: "Sorry, but I have a boyfriend"

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:53:13 PM »

 Good. It's your choice. I respect it. Everyone is free to choose to date or not, to have kids or not, etc. That's why I also do like the CF (child-free) communities.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Virtual charity for the good incels from a female

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:51:26 PM »

 Good girls are over there.  But the problem with many of those incels is that they're so doubtful that they're even not going to give it a try. You see that one, for example? He thinks that you'll cheat his money, steal his precious name and address (so-called doxxing) and other horror-movie like scenarios. They just stopped believing in good and in hope.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Again about the ITs (anti-incels, incelophobes "IncelTears")

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:43:44 PM »

 Right now I told to the Chinese brocel here that he's sort of privileged being in Shanghai (far away from the Russia-Ukraine missiles, no minus temperatures, good private university and so on) and he'll feel much worse if he lives somewhere in East Europe. BUT yes, to be objective, many people in the rest of East Europe (Albania, Moldova, Bulgaria, Romania...) do admit that Poland is one of the best amongst them (at least when it comes to deal with the economy, democracy, army and the social problems).

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Good incels, incelologists and incel supporters, help LibGen in this thread!

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:38:55 PM »

 Depends on where in Europe. For example living in Moldova and living in Germany is not the same. But the prices of plane tickets are cheaper and the rents too.
 My idea is that there SHOULD BE at least 1 second best psychometry country in the world which is better than USA (for example, let's suppose it's Japan or South Korea)... there you can go easier and cheaper. This is what I mean.
 I will give you another example -- because of the recent emperorization of China (lack of collectivism in the Party) and more xenophobic laws and attitudes, I gave up my dream to become a Chinese (to obtain Chinese citizenship or Chinese green card). I spent in China almost 19 years and it was my dream to become a Chinese citizen but I didn't know that after the dear comrade Hu Jintao, the situation will become so difficult here (especially for the poor foreigners like me), so I wanted to move to some another place full of Chinese (hua ren) like Singapore. Singapore is the best, isn't it? But later I found out that there is difficult to find a job and it's expensive for the poor people like me, so now I think of something like "second best" and it will be somewhere in South-East Asia like Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia... this is it. When you can't afford the best, try the second best.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:23:08 PM »

Depression can go away.
Just look for the things in life that make you happy.

Huhh... yeah I know, but, the things that make me happy are not unachievable and unachieved, and the things that can't make me happy are achieved intrinsically.

 If you wish, share concretely what bothers you so much. Because I see Chinese in much worse conditions (for example the workers and soldiers in Xinjiang or those in Inner Mongolia) who stay there in subzero temperatures, deal with diseases, storms and so on... and still, most of them feel okay and some are even happy. You don't need to suffer in some cold place, don't need to fight with Indian army (like the ones in Tibet recently), don't need to work hard job (like all those in the mines, on the field and the construction workers)... For many people your worries are like "first world problem" (because being in Shanghai and in a private university is already one of the top worldwide).
 You're also much better than the poor foreigners in China (like me) because you have legal rights to work almost any job you want and we, the non-native speakers, after the 2017 law that limited us to be at least English teachers,... we were left almost without any chance to find a legal job (yes, if we're in Taiwan, Macao or Japan, we can work even as cleaners, waiters and so on but in China we can't. No foreign cleaners, no foreign bus drivers, no foreign postmen... ) Now I only survive here because I had a few private students (300 yuan per week), I collect empty bottles and cans on the streets and sell them (4 yuan per week) and I have some minor online earnings (a euro or two per week). Can you imagine what hell of life is it?
 If I can change (exchange) myself, I will prefer to be you, not me, when it comes being in China.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:09:29 PM »

 

and I am so-called 'garbage' in the world.

 But wait, you can't say so, because you're privileged comparing with all these guys (in Poland and other East European countries) who live poor life, who're dealing with falling missiles on their territory (because they're close to Russia and Ukraine) and who live in fear every day because even on the street they can get beaten by skinheads (光头党), football hooligans (那些喜欢打人的足球粉丝), dog bites (homeless dogs) and so on. You live in secured Shanghai and you're in a private university. Also you're more knowledgeable than most of the other Chinese (好多中国人的英语不好，你的算是特别好。而且大家，大多数，是农民，工人，服务员，司机。没有那么多会你一样懂IT或心理学。)
 If you're "garbage" who is not? The worker who thinks that "Malaysia" is "Bulgaria"? The waitress who thinks that all non-Chinese are rich? The peasant who even don't know that Thailand has no border with China? The cashier who thinks that all foreigners have got AIDS? The fuerdai (second generation rich) who only plays online games and never heard of Lech Walesa, Georgi Dimitrov and even local men like Mo Zi and Peng Dehuai, and who thinks that "planet" and "star" is one and the same?
 Most of the people around the world are very weak in knowledge, information and education. And most of the people live in dangerous areas. You're lucky enough to be what you are. Except adding to (maxxing) your body and curing the psychological problems, you're already okay. If you're only son, you're also guaranteed with apartment, maybe a car, you'll have a high salary job... you're just the ideal for son-in-law for many Chinese mothers and fathers. I know many in Shanghai are too greedy and picky, but not all China (and Asia) is like Shanghai or Shenzhen. Just geomaxx a bit (move to a less greedy place) and you'll be perceived as a very successful young man.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 14, 2022, 04:46:45 PM »

Btw what a coincidence that many of us are socialists/communists xD

It's because we lived before in socialist countries which became capitalist ones and we may compare the things -- for example, before there were free hospitals, libraries, education and so on -- no matter rich or poor, you never could be left without medical care, education, books, etc. Now the poor people can't have these. So, it's normal people to prefer the socialism (even it had some disadvantages).
 At the same time, people like this Chinese fellow, who experienced the system here which is more feudal than socialist or communist (for example, politically it's just one-man ruling, something like the emperors ago; the hospitals and the universities aren't free; the rich people have much more choices and better treatment in the society than the poor ones) can't see a reason to be socialist/communist (because they never lived in a real socialist society). I don't mean that the socialist Poland or socialist Bulgaria were the 100% ideal of socialism, there were some flaws too (like limitations for people to travel abroad, restricted free speech and some others) but at least there were those many free services (and cheap, affordable goods) that made most of the people feeling okay and with dignity.
 And, at the end, even at that time, there are those people who when they live in the capitalism they'll think that the socialism is better and the opposite.
 About the inceldom: in a real socialist society, it's easier to deal with the inceldom and I will explain why:
 When you're not worrying about money (because the hospitals, the education and the libraries are free + the goods are mostly cheap), then you usually can't be a greedy person and you'll focus more on art, culture, science, etc. In this kind of society the females are also going to be more educated, high-leveled and oriented to search males with brain, feelings, morals (not only males with money and looks).
 In the capitalism, especially the one that makes big gaps between poor and rich, and allows anarchy, crimes, etc. the females are growing more wild -- they value more animalistic qualities like strong body man, man full of resources and so on, and usually you can't impress such a woman with poetry, knowledge, romantic feelings and so on. Thus in the capitalism only the very rich, very powerful and very handsome males are secured with Stacy-level females, the rest -- if they can have a Becky are feeling lucky.

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Other languages / Re: Най-после се поосъзнаха?

« on: December 14, 2022, 02:11:38 AM »

Най-после започнаха да се допускат мненията, че КОВИД (в омикроновия си сегашен вариант) не е чак толкова опасен; да се разхлабват мерките (поне официално; на места не винаги промените идват толкова бързо; например около мен все още не можеш да влизаш в публичен транспорт без нацистоидните кодове - само зелен код (ако имаш жълт код, например, който може да ти се даде по различни причини - не може! За червен - да не става дума!)), да се забраняват предишните малоумни блокажи, предизвикали толкова много смърт (заради ненавременно и/или невъзможно вършене на работата на медици и пожарникари; поради самоубийства; поради други свързани по-пряко или по-косвено причини).
 Горд съм, че дори когато беше най-опасно да се критикува, написах на много хора, на 3 езика, както и официални статии тук, че открито протестирам срещу тази "0 КОВИД" ПОЛИТИКА НА НЕВЪЗМОЖНОТО превръщайки се в дисидент (макар и ляв, защото не искам капитализмът да е върхът на човешката еволюция и предпочитам по-социалните, по-социалистическите общества, където няма мизерстващи и подтиснати и, където дори хора без капиталистически умения или наследени пари, или щастливо спечелили лотерии и големи наследства, могат да си позволят здравеопазване, образование, спорт и култура.)
 Оставам си на позицията, че при днешната политическа ситуация, Китай заприличва повече на империя с император от ултранационалистически тип, а не на народна република от социалистически тип, какъвто е официалният наратив (парадигма), затова и се отказвах от детската си мечта да имам китайско гражданство или китайска зелена карта (въпреки че сега имам право да кандидатствам за такава).

 Искам да добавя нещо, което е офтопик (не съвсем по темата) - един човек, който си беше направил труд да посети и прочете тук даде съвети за този форум: да се сложело "https", че сега е само с "http" (хубаво, ама хостингът иска пари за тази услуга допълнително, а ние не можем да изкараме толкова; особено сега в Китай, където чужденците са все повече ограничени за намиране на работа легално. Тук даже метач или келнер не можеш да бъдеш, защото не издават такива визи. Чужденците с работа в Китай са единични изключения, на фона на всички, които искат да работят, но не могат, тук.), да се промени URL-то, че така изглеждало като някакво с лош код ("SEO" значи "science-education-omnilogy = наука-образование-всичкология", forum е ясно, а "luntan" е латинизираната китайска дума "论坛", което също значи "форум". Не знам защо буди някакви страшни асоциации, но хората са си напатили онлайн и офлайн и не е чудно.
 Отделно, над едно десетилетие брандиране, линкове, споделяне с това URL и изведнъж да го махнеш/редиректнеш... не мисля, че е добра идея, а и също ще става дума за добаяне на пари, а от китайската партнираща страна няма да има съгласие, защото не е  от богатите китайци.)

 Понеже съм обективен, отбелязвам, че и при нас (в южнокитайски град, където съм през последните години) вече премахнаха всякакви кодове, проверки, тестове. Единственото задължително са маските (лошо няма; винаги съм бил "промаскър" и не разбирам как може човек да е "антимаскър"). Дори имаме 2 седмици безплатен транспорт (поне мъничка компенсация за причинените неудобства с велосипедите под наем, които ползвах често заради нежеланието си да участвам в лудостта наречена "0 КОВИД" и да се тествам на всеки 3 дена!)
 Така или иначе, много е разочароващо всичко това (императоризацията и ксенофобизацията, имам предвид), та не мисля, че трябва да продължавам в Китай.