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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: I don't like Incels.is

« on: December 09, 2022, 06:30:32 AM »

  Well said and well said. 

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Are you scared? I am.

« on: December 09, 2022, 06:29:14 AM »

Well, in Poland they weren't, until now... and Ukraine is even worse. Imagine your country treats you as a piece of meat to defend rich that always escape.

 In fact, they do not defend only the rich, they do defend the poor who otherwise are going to be: rocketed, bombed, raped, hammered and so on.  The present Russian cruelty is obvious (of course there are cruel soldiers in every army but the Russian problem is from the top to the bottom)... so, as I mentioned, what is the other choice? To surrender and to become a part of Russia or to be separated between Russia and Poland (I know there are still those Polish ultra-nationalists who want to take some Ukrainian lands back), or to become a puppet state (semi-colony) of Russia? Most of the Ukrainians want to be a part of the EU, so it's not in their interest to accept the Russians.
 And about that -- I said it before in a Bulgarian post: "During the wars, the biggest and the most pity victims are the poor people! The rich ones, usually, are able to avoid it." 
 I do think so because I am a person with socialistic values (I like the Fabianism -- "whose purpose is to advance the principles of social democracy and democratic socialism via gradualist and reformist effort in democracies, rather than by revolutionary overthrow.") So, I am a pacifist too. 100% anti-war oriented!!!

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Are you scared? I am.

« on: December 09, 2022, 06:19:09 AM »

Well, I'm from Poland, it's not going to be next war with russia, yet I am angry that ukrainian government forces young man to die. Polish government try to use current situation and also force poles to obligatory military service just to supress potential riots bc they are driving country to crisis, stealing and taking civil rights. Dissatisfaction grows very fast in society so they want to send opposition to forced military. The worst part is that every political party voted for it...

 I am not sure if the Polish situation is exactly like that but I know the Ukrainian better. The problem is (as George Orwell wrote in one of his articles) that when a democratic country (well, Ukraine was at least 50-60% democratic) fights against a totalitarian state (like the present Russia, which is something like a country with an emperor, an empire) than, until there is a war, the democratic country have no choice but to use non-democratic methods like to forbid the people to leave it and to go fighting (of course, it's only if the country wants to survive; the other choice is to be enslaved or puppet-ed, i. e. semi-colonized).
 Being a Russian small neighbor country today is sort of scary, except you're not North Korea maybe. 

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Poorcel has upsides

« on: December 09, 2022, 06:11:05 AM »

Poorcel has upsides

 About the poorcel has upsides.

"Well, if you're poor you repel people that want money from you..." -- obviously more and more materialistic, money-oriented... this is the pure result of the capitalistic reality. If the capital/money isn't so important, they'll value other things more... I still remember the old socialistic times in the country I was born where the free education and medical care made many people to focus on things like poetry, art and so on. That time a poet or a painter could be more precious than just a rich man (for many females). Of course, there were those who wanted the money but not so many as nowadays.


 "I have nice idea. -maxxing is not enough nor most important. The most important part is to talk with many people (and hygiene obviously... xD)." -- this is what is known as "social-maxx". It works sometimes (depends on your IQ, EQ and the quantity of the people you try with).
 

 "You may find then someone you can make healthy relationship with. Honestly, I don't want to be rich because that, even more, I want to be between poor and middle-class (atm poor)." -- it's good that you're not greedy! Congratulations! I do admire it. But in the harsh capitalistic reality the problem is the health. Even with 100% health-maxx, someday, you may need some surgery or something... and then they hospitals are going to "eat you up". If there are free hospitals and free education, well, just being "ATM poor" is okay, once your brain is rich.

 "I have very uncommon idea: I wrote some manifestos and want to hang them on the city." -- as far as this isn't illegal there. And, if you need an idea -- most of the people aren't clever (according to one of our professors 80% of the people aren't clever) they need more visual, colorful, etc. attractors. So, be sure to add something colorful, even sexy on the manifestos.  It's like the ads -- the ones with attractive people, cute animals, funny things, etc. sell better.

"being poor means you must be stronger to survive." -- very true! It's an example of a good internal warrior in you!

"reject richness, embrace poorness!  " -- well, not very right because it's kind of asceticism. The ideal of the communism is people to have what they need. Poorness means "lack-ness" and it can't satisfy the needs (I mean the good needs like: food, love, water, knowledge, sport... I don't mean bad needs like "I want to be a drug lord."  or "I want to be an emperor.") so, the golden mean is the best -- not too rich, but having enough for being a happy person.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: My weird though: Poorcell has upsides

« on: December 09, 2022, 05:40:54 AM »

 I think your English is pretty good. By the way, words like "incel", "poorcel", "ascend", "gymmaxx", "moneymaxx" and so on are English slangs so even some native English speaker don't understand them (if they're not incelologists or members of incel communities).
 I will read your theory later and I will comment it for sure! Glad to meet intelligent incels here!

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: When you watch the World cup you can see that the Chads are everywhere

« on: December 09, 2022, 05:37:00 AM »

 Me too, mostly. And I had a friend who was so obsessed of sports (tennis, volleyball, even snooker)... spent thousands of hours watching these and drinking... at one moment he realized he became an incel (and he's a tall, handsome men). The sportmania made him an oldcel and a sort of a mentalcel. He was a Chadlite-tier and self-minned so bad... He lost friends and chances with many Beckies and even several Stacies... because "I will go to watch the tennis, sorry, I can't date you today!" or "Well, the volleyball is more important than reading about your problem, but don't forget to read about my problem and to solve it!"

I am watching, from time to time, kung fu, MMA, wrestling... like these. And it's just 1-2 hours (during I do something else too, like writing some e-book or training with dumbbells and other tools.)

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Are you afraid of the end of the world? What if... for the incels?

« on: December 09, 2022, 05:30:42 AM »

Well... I'm not afraid of it, just worried that country I live in comes closer and closer to authoritarianism. War isn't danger for Poland, our own government is. I'm also angry that polish "left" recently showed their true face and instead of fighting for people they care only about getting votes from electorate.

 I am from East Europe too (Bulgaria) and I know that Poland has a good democratic tradition. Most of the Polish aren't easily going to accept an authoritarian type of political situation again. If you're telling me you're from Hungary or Turkey, well, yes, but exactly Poland. No way.
 Yes, there is a crisis in the democracy all around the globe but Poland is one of the hardest cores of the democracy, the Polish people (the majority) is pro-democratic so I think the authoritarianism there is having not more than 1% to 9% chance (theoretically).

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: "Sorry, but I have a boyfriend"

« on: December 09, 2022, 05:26:21 AM »

 And because only around 1%-2% of the people are 2 meters tall + rich + handsome... it means that the rest 98%-99% are single and nobody has a wife, which is simply... wrong, because most of the husbands are normies (and even those big belly uncles)... 
 Yes, I am sure most of the females what a tall, rich and handsome, but at the end of the day, they end up with only one (or none) of this -- only handsome, only tall, only rich... or just a so-so handsome, not that tall and not rich (the usual couple).

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Metapill offtopic

« on: December 09, 2022, 05:21:59 AM »

 OK, here comes the metapill offtopic: "Is it really unequivocal that "Success is only for successful-born people."?"

 A person nicknamed depression_redditv3 who already attacked rudely the metapill theory and me with "garbage", "braindead" and so on, wrote something called "Success is only for successful-born people. This is unequivocal."
 Let me see is it something useful or not?
 
 1.

Short? Upturned nose? Introverted? Bad memory? "Low IQ"? Unlucky?

No success for you.

 As you notice this is not completely true because there are many short-but-successful people!
 Vladimir Lenin was only 5' 5" (1.65 m). Dani DeVito is even shorter -- 4' 10" (1.47 m), Luka Modrić is
5' 8" (1.72 m), ... There are many examples. The average IQed people will get it at once.

 As you may know many successful people are introverts -- a short list: Larry Page, Mark Zuckerberg, Steven Spielberg, Bill Gates.

 Just an upturned nose and then no success?! Even no need to spend time to comment such a blatant non-sense.
 
 Bad memory and low IQ -- the only two that are mentioned right. These two may be a very big obstacle in most of the cases.

 Unlucky. This is a sort of tautology (saying of the same thing twice in different words): When you're unlucky there is no success for you. And when you're lucky there is success for you. Yes, obviously being lucky means you're already having success and it's a base for more successes eventually.

 2.

You aren't even unsuccessful, you are simply completely locked out of the success game.

 Just because you have some small problems like "I am short." or "I don't have the best nose." doesn't make "out of the game" at all. Only a total pessimist may think so overexaggerating the small problems (which in some cases may turn to be even advantages -- for example, it's useful if you want to be a jockey, if you're short. Another example -- long nose in the West is usually "ugly" but in the far East it's "beautiful").

 3.

It doesn't matter if you name someone who had every disadvantage but still succeeded, that person was still pre-determined to succeed (and therefore merely privileged) while the people who don't were pre-determined to not succeed.

 Ha-ha-ha! "Pre-determined"! Who determines it? The God, the gods, the Karma, the Fate, the Aliens? What is it? A sort of fatalism. There are no scientific proofs that there is something or someone who pre-determines the lives/successes. Only religious people and many low-IQed ones may think that there is something like pre-determination.
 If there is such a thing, we just can sit and wait... and the pre-determinated life is coming to us. Why to bother trying, working? 

 4.

There is no part of the brain that is a general blob: it's all just perfectly following the causes made by the previous atom or set of atoms. A rock can't choose to fall different, but you are exactly the same.

 Obviously the guy never heard of "Free will"... If the brain is like a falling stone, then why I can choose to do or not to do something? For example, he can say "Don't answer me!" and I will answer him or he can say "Tell me this." and I will choose not telling him.
 The atomic level maybe the same but there is difference between the rabbit and the fox (even when atomically they're the same). We and the brains are already another level. There are different levels of reality -- the jellyfish and the lion are made of atoms the same as the water or the Sun... but it doesn't mean that a jellyfish is a sun or a lion is a liquid. Maybe too complicated for him to get it? But I hope there are more educated people around to understand this simple truth.

 5.

What you can do is hope that you are pre-determined to work AGAINST the system, not WITH the system...

 Another fatalism. Useless to comment.

 6.

But you could also be pre-determined to be a touchless F student with zero future. Your grades are determined by amygdala size and mental health, not IQ and hard work.

 Let's ignore the stupid fatalism and to think about this only: the relationship between the gifted people (good amygdala and mental health) and the success in studying. I spent nearly 20 years in teaching. And I know that learning is easier for some people. I also know that the hard work and especially the IQ are important too! For example, you may be gifted in learning math but if your teacher sucks and/or if you're lazy and prefer to play games instead of thinking about the math problems, you're not going to succeed in math at all! At the same time, some not very gifted but hardworking student with a good math teacher will learn the math better than you.
 There is also an example -- the Polgár sisters who were taught by their father since the early childhood to play chess (and even there were no other chess masters in their family) they became chess grandmasters. He just proved that hard work may bring success.
 Here is a very, very, very simple experiment for all of you who don't believe that the efforts are meaningful: only some of you may remember this number instantly -- 1029384756. But try to memorize it every day at least 3 times and after a month most of you will be able to remember it for a long time.

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And being touchless? No need to even comment on why that's pre-determined AKA out of your control AKA not your fault.

 No need to even comment why fatalism is useless and harmful! To claim that there are "touchless" people because of pre-determination shows lack of understanding and/or willing to be lazy and not to try to improve yourself.

 8.

If you are someone with an upturned nose, acne scars, 5'4, NW1-2 early on, bad facial structure etc. then what are you going to do?

 1. Not to care about the nose because this is not a big problem (if it's at all).
 2. To shave it all because there are even skinheads (neonazis) who are considered sexy and they do have girl-friends.
 3. Compensate the bad facial structure and acne scars with better body and skin via diet-maxx and gym-maxx.

 In a sentence: if you're a 3/10 nearcel like that, after maxxing (diet-maxx, gym-maxx, edu-maxx, fashion-maxx, art-maxx, money-maxx) you will be at least a 5/10 normie-tier to 6/10 Bradlite depends on your efforts, luck and genetics.

 9.

Your life will never be like successful people's never like chad's, never like a privileged failed normie's.

 Most of the people aren't Chads or privileged Normans. But still, if you're trying hard (instead to speak "It's over! It's all pre-determined!") then you 100% will see improvements that are coming necessarily! Examples? Doing 100 push-ups a day in several months changes your body (adding up muscles) -- check it out: link to Bing SE. Another example -- even you're not intelligent enough to remember that "27 × 27 = 729", if you review it day by day, a few weeks later you'll remember the correct answer ("729").
 Learning, improving are possible when you really put efforts and believe. If you are a blackpilled pessimist-fatalist, it's really over and better not to be born because you're useless and harmful for yourself and for those who have chances to ascend (if there are no people like you who make them desperate and stop them, killing their reasonable hopes and discouraging them)!

 10.

Even if you were to hypothetically turn your life around, and be a one in a billion case of someone with a horrific situation turning into one of these people... the first 25 years of your life were pure trash. You will always be someone who hasn't hugged before age 25 and this will permanently affect your physiology and psychology.

 Not always. There are people who (after got rich, successful and love-havers) heal their psychology very well and successfully! Of course, if you're too sensitive or psychopathic then, well, you can afford a good psychotherapist and you'll get better anyway.

 11.

Hope for a better tomorrow all you want but all that will happen tomorrow is you will cope and rot. Nothing will change.

 
 It's valid only for those like you, who're even not going to try to maxx! This kind of thinking only minn!

 12.

brb people who have abused you genuinely believe they deserve to live and move on, and even without changing.

 Wrong for many of them because some of them are dying in incidents, others are going to the jails... don't assume that all the bullies are very successful!

 13.

brb you will never find the home addresses of your childhood bullies no matter how hard you try.

 Is it a problem?! Don't you have a better and more meaningful to do with your life than to face your childhood bullies (which, well at least some of them, maybe already dead)? I know one who was killed in the jail. And another one who die in a war. So?... But, yeah, maybe it's too hard for your brain to get it now. Take your time.

 14.

brb trying for years and still out-competed by chad in any sport or esport, in studying etc.

 Hahaha!    Esports are full of Chads, huh? There are plenty of so-called nerdy boys, incels, nearcels there (and it's normal because they spend most of their time in front of the computers, instead of go running, training some sport, etc.)
 About the sports, well, there are Chads who maybe better than you, but what if you're not numer one?! If there are 3 Chads in your class + 16  Normans and 3 nearcels like you, what if you are number 3 (you can overpass at least one of the Chads). There are plenty of successful sportsmen who're beating Chads (imagine some of those ugly MMA fighters for example -- not every MMA fighter is ugly but there are MMA guys who're just Norman-tiers or nearcel-tiers... and still they can beat up most of the Chads around).
 About the studying? Are you serious?! There are clever Chads but what I see, well, most of the clever boys aren't Chads at all. As you noticed most of the Chads are suitable for sports and when they start to spend more and more time, energy and efforts on sports, well, then many of them just can't combine it with the studying... there are some unique Chads who're really good at everything but how many %?
 It's a rare combination "Chad + very good at study". I guess not more than 20% of the Chads are capable to manage the sports + the intellectual development very well.
 
 15.

while you're a 5/10 and haven't hugged in your 20s

 Elliot Roger number 2!  LOL! That psychopath was so young and even didn't wait until he's 30 (when he'll look more masculine) and, of course, was too lazy to gymmaxx (he was able to become a Changlite + his statusmaxx, which was a 100% sure thing, he could ascend in many places even in USA itself!) Do you think that 20s is the end? There are people who ascend when they're 40+! At least via geo-maxx and social-maxx they do. Want examples?

 16.

brb you're constantly under depression, anxiety, OCD etc. while every second of chad's life is a peaceful trance state since he has never been bullied once

 Wrong. Most of the incels even don't know that they're incels (there are incels in denial, many bluepilled people and so on). There are also those redpilled (and recently, thanks to me, metapilled) incels who do not stop self-improving themselves instead of just being cry babies with fatalistic and pessimistic views.
 And, yes, by the way, even the blackpillers do admit that the Chads are not more than 5%-10% of the population. Look around you, most of the people are average (Normans). The incels and the Chads are minorities. The Brads are a minority too. The GigaChads are the smallest minority. And all the Normans (normies), there are plenty of nearcels among them. It's not that easy for them too. The females are getting more and more pickier nowadays. Many normies are soon-to-be incels too.
 
 17.

brb infinities of suffering and abuse throughout history have amounted to nothing, it only serves chads and winners of the system because it is fundamentally absurd.

 Absurd? Yes, if you believe in "Just word". The world isn't perfect and the live is a struggle. So, if you're struggling you have some chances, if you give up, you have nearly 0 chances.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: The Metapill

« on: December 09, 2022, 02:41:41 AM »

I really feel sorry that guys like him make all of the incels (including angels like me) to look terrible in the eyes of the noncels.
 
But we're good. Let's give him a chance, to see if he's right at least about something. I found something about his life philosophy: https://saidit.net/s/Incels/comments/a3bh/success_is_only_for_successfulborn_people_this_is/. How do you think about it? Comments, please?

I'm going to take a look and to comment sentence-by-sentence. I am objective and if there is something valuable or/and true, I will admit it.

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A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: The Metapill

« on: December 09, 2022, 02:24:24 AM »

 Yes, there are some low-IQed incels who will do that. An example is a recent rude one who instead to understand that "meta" unites all the good things from the existing pills and uses a scientific and philosophical method to make it easier for the incels to deal with the inceldom in a human and right, clever way, he commented like a total barbarian with "Bluepilled garbage from a 10 IQ braindead subanimal."

My answers to this terrible incel:

1) It's not bluepilled, it's metapilled. Not everything that isn't your favorite pessimistic and killing blackpill is a "bluepill".
2) It's not garbage because it's science and materialistic philosophy based, written by a professional incelologist.
3) 10 IQ is obviously your IQ. I am a graduated philosopher-anthropologist (with a Master's on "The Different Aspects of the Love").
4) Subanimal can be someone like you just because the animals are better than a person like you in many ways (like they'll not criticize something that they don't understand; they're not calling an educated pro and his work "10 IQ" and "subanimal" and so on).
 If you're still a kid or a pre-teen/teen there is a hope later to understand that this kind of behavior isn't good at all. But if you're 18+ and behave like this, there is no hope for you and better stay an incel for life! Don't reproduce your ignorance, aggression and stupidity!

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Internet / A pretty dusk time moon

« on: December 08, 2022, 03:01:01 AM »

A pretty dusk time moon

 A pretty dusk time moon photo: .

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Internet / Re: Pictures (photos/pics/photographs) of different things

« on: December 08, 2022, 02:58:55 AM »

 OK.

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Homes, houses, apartments, flats, rooms, balconies, gardens, decor and decorating ideas / Re: Pretty yards

« on: December 08, 2022, 02:56:40 AM »

 Yes. Here we go. A new one:
-- pretty yard with different trees, bushes and other plants. 

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Other languages / Re: Най-после се поосъзнаха?

« on: December 07, 2022, 05:12:33 PM »

Най-после започнаха да се допускат мненията, че КОВИД (в омикроновия си сегашен вариант) не е чак толкова опасен; да се разхлабват мерките (поне официално; на места не винаги промените идват толкова бързо; например около мен все още не можеш да влизаш в публичен транспорт без нацистоидните кодове - само зелен код (ако имаш жълт код, например, който може да ти се даде по различни причини - не може! За червен - да не става дума!)), да се забраняват предишните малоумни блокажи, предизвикали толкова много смърт (заради ненавременно и/или невъзможно вършене на работата на медици и пожарникари; поради самоубийства; поради други свързани по-пряко или по-косвено причини).
 Горд съм, че дори когато беше най-опасно да се критикува, написах на много хора, на 3 езика, както и официални статии тук, че открито протестирам срещу тази "0 КОВИД" ПОЛИТИКА НА НЕВЪЗМОЖНОТО превръщайки се в дисидент (макар и ляв, защото не искам капитализмът да е върхът на човешката еволюция и предпочитам по-социалните, по-социалистическите общества, където няма мизерстващи и подтиснати и, където дори хора без капиталистически умения или наследени пари, или щастливо спечелили лотерии и големи наследства, могат да си позволят здравеопазване, образование, спорт и култура.)
 Оставам си на позицията, че при днешната политическа ситуация, Китай заприличва повече на империя с император от ултранационалистически тип, а не на народна република от социалистически тип, какъвто е официалният наратив (парадигма), затова и се отказвах от детската си мечта да имам китайско гражданство или китайска зелена карта (въпреки че сега имам право да кандидатствам за такава).

 Искам да добавя нещо, което е офтопик (не съвсем по темата) - един човек, който си беше направил труд да посети и прочете тук даде съвети за този форум: да се сложело "https", че сега е само с "http" (хубаво, ама хостингът иска пари за тази услуга допълнително, а ние не можем да изкараме толкова; особено сега в Китай, където чужденците са все повече ограничени за намиране на работа легално. Тук даже метач или келнер не можеш да бъдеш, защото не издават такива визи. Чужденците с работа в Китай са единични изключения, на фона на всички, които искат да работят, но не могат, тук.), да се промени URL-то, че така изглеждало като някакво с лош код ("SEO" значи "science-education-omnilogy = наука-образование-всичкология", forum е ясно, а "luntan" е латинизираната китайска дума "论坛", което също значи "форум". Не знам защо буди някакви страшни асоциации, но хората са си напатили онлайн и офлайн и не е чудно.
 Отделно, над едно десетилетие брандиране, линкове, споделяне с това URL и изведнъж да го махнеш/редиректнеш... не мисля, че е добра идея, а и също ще става дума за добаяне на пари, а от китайската партнираща страна няма да има съгласие, защото не е  от богатите китайци.)