2011

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / A new chat with a denialcel

« on: December 18, 2022, 01:37:42 PM »

Incel  in denial (denialcel)

A denialcel

  Incel in denial or a denialcel is a person who is dealing somehow with the inceldom but he (she) has no idea that he/she is an incel (femcel). He or she just deny or underestimate his/her inceldom.
 And here is my newest chat with a denialcel (he is a Chinese good man, educated too, with some good earnings from the educational business in Guangdong). The main reasons causing his inceldom are that he's not very attractive as face (3/10 to 3.5/10 at best) and he's short (shorter than most of the Chinese in South China).
 Because he's mostly a shortcel, I think, this is his main problem and I tried to give him a hint that he should at least gymmaxx (to improve his body and to compensate at least a bit his shortness). If he's gymmaxed, he may achieve a 4.5/10 status (because seems he's already moneymaxxed and statusmaxxed, also he has very good personality) but he surprisingly thinks that he's already enough good to have a girl-friend and even asked me to connect him with a foreign girlfriend (without knowing good English and without improved body) and he is feeling that it's so normal to have a girlfriend in his situation that even said that he doesn't want to use online dating because it's too slow for him; he wants someone to introduce a girl directly to him and to start dating asap.
 This is how entitled are many of the incels (denialcels especially) today (they can't imagine that women do have wishes, ideals, needs and they can't just accept you because you need a girlfriend.)
 Some moments from the chat:

 

我做教育，成功了啊；只是没有女朋友，可以介绍个外国女友么

(I am in the educational business, successful; just have no girlfriend, can you introduce a foreign girlfriend to me?)

 After a website (in English where he can try to find some foreign women) idea: 

但是我英语不好啊

(But my English isn't good!)

 After I found for him a website in Chinese:

网络上的，一般要很长时间
如果直接有人介绍，就好很多

(When it comes to online dating, usually it takes a long time

If there is a person who can directly introduce someone, then this is the really good thing.)

 So, do you think this man will find a girlfriend if he continues to keep his status unchanged? I think he's almost without chance to ascend if he's not going to improve himself (much) more.

2012

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Facial Caucasian similarity is dominating the facial appreciations in E.Asia

« on: December 18, 2022, 02:01:32 AM »

 Right now I remembered a funny story from my childhood. We had some foreign guests in our school (native Indians from a Latin American country). Maybe you all know that the American Indians are with Asian origin (they moved from North Asia long time ago), so till today they look mostly "Asian". For example these native Brazil people:
 And when those came to our school, even we knew they're not Chinese or Japanese, we were "sure" that they know kung fu or karate because "They are so Asian!" 
 What I mean is that in the eye of a foreigner (without experience) all Mongoloids (yellow race people) are similar or "the same", so I do agree with Zhang that in Asia, the local females, may rate him higher if he's with more pale skin, longer nose, rounder eyes and tall, but once in the West, it's not noticeable -- the Asian fans will like him the same and the females who dislike Asians will dislike him the same.

2013

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Facial Caucasian similarity is dominating the facial appreciations in E.Asia

« on: December 18, 2022, 01:52:12 AM »

@Enlighten3d, I also think so, but many Chinese (and other Asian people) tend to like those almost mixed White-yellow people (for example for many Asian females a "混血" (hybrid) kid looks much prettier than a local kid). So, he's right that in China, Japan, Indonesia, etc. being with bigger nose, rounder eyes and so on is more attractive than the classical Asian, but tell him that usually the Westerners doesn't make easy difference between a dude from Japan and a dude from Thailand (if they're not fans who study Asia). The same as in China -- here a Polish, a Spanish, an Arab and a Turkish look the same to most of the Chinese who didn't meet many foreigners.

2014

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Facial Caucasian similarity is dominating the facial appreciations in E.Asia

« on: December 18, 2022, 01:45:39 AM »

 Most of the Western people, including the K-pop, J-pop, Q-pop fans, do NOT make any difference between those with some Caucasian similarities and those without them. Maybe you never heard about it but for many Westerners "Chinese look all the same." and "Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese... they're all the same." For you it's easy to say who is from Xinjiang and who is from Hongkong but to them all is "just Asian".
 There are many examples about it, there are even articles online about it -- check this one, for example: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/breyeschow/2012/07/31/all-asians-look-the-same/ ("Why Do All Asians Look the Same?")
 For the Westerners who never been in East Asia or never met many Asians even some Russian Tatars look 100% Asian. For some of them Andy Lau and Bruce Lee, Hu Jintao and Mao Zedong -- all look the same.
 The girls who like Koreans or Japanese, they like them exactly because they are ASIAN not because they have some Western things. If they want Western (like the majority of the females) they will never pay attention to something like Korean...
 Remember that once you're in the West, no matter pale skinned Korean or darker skinned Vietnamese, you're just an Asian for 90%+ of the people.

2015

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Facial Caucasian similarity is dominating the facial appreciations in E.Asia

« on: December 17, 2022, 01:43:06 AM »

 If you didn't, please take a look at Just be white -- one side thinking.
 What you're saying resembles the pessimistic, blackpilled and racepilled point "Only the white guys are handsome, if you're not white, you're done and it's over!" Don't fall in this trap, created by low IQed incels.
 You're living in Shanghai, so, yes, you saw Chinese women with white men, but you also saw Chinese women with black man and south Asian, Arab, African etc. men (semi-white or non-white) for sure. Maybe you heard that some Chinese women also marry Japanese (even most of Chinese can't believe it), Koreans, etc. And now, check this out -- when you're outside, start to count the couples and you'll find out that MOST OF the Chinese females are with Chinese boy-friends and Chinese husbands...
 We do agree that there is something called "white worship" in China (Chinese avoid the sunshine, no tan fans, many people think that the people from the North, like 东北人 are better looking than the darker and shorter southerners). But it's a detail -------------------------> maybe being a whiter and taller will give you 10% or 15% advantage, but if you're lacking these:

- money
- knowledge and character for love
- good man (male) body (or something fashionable like K-pop style feminine look),

 then you white-ness, Caucasian-ness and stuff is worthless.

 Well, now let's suppose you're a very typical souther Asian (I think you're not 100%, because you're also having some northern traits -- for example, your skin isn't dark like that of the people in Hongkong, Guangdong, Guangxi, Yunnan and Hainan), then what? Then more and more (更加！) you have to maxx the things that females find attractive: muscles (gymmaxx), capital (moneymaxx), status (being a professor is a good statusmaxx!) and so on (for example, artmaxx) -- learn playing guitar or singing well, or even something traditional like guzheng (古箏).

2016

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Do you think the culprit of my MDD is my brutal primary school?

« on: December 17, 2022, 12:24:09 AM »

 I am not sure if you really have got exactly the MDD. You know, self-diagnosis isn't always accurate. Even doctors may make wrong diagnosis. But, let's suppose, that you've got this or another kind of depression. What science says about it? Exact cause of these is often unknown and psychological trauma or stress are important factors in predisposed people.
 As was noticed above, maybe your school had some impact on your psychological status (then and now) and/or maybe your overstrict mother caused this more or less but you're just born like this (sensitive and thinker type person, probably introverted to some degree) and then, the things is: if you're in a stressful conditions you'll be more depressed. You need harmony, safety and understanding, loving people around you -- then you'll be like a genius, maybe very creative. You're just a clever, intelligent, sensitive and fragile person, so you should avoid the hard conditions + you should train yourself to be as brave (strong, man up and "don't care") as possible.

2017

Stars / Qatar 2022 World Cup Mascot and football stars

« on: December 16, 2022, 02:47:33 AM »

La'eeb -- the Qatar 2022 world cup mascot

 A La'eeb (the Qatar's World cup mascot) from South China: and football stars on dairy products in a supermarket in South China: .

2018

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Fakecel

« on: December 16, 2022, 01:31:07 AM »

fakecel (pl. fakecels); braincel (pl. braincels) -- incels who are only self-proclaimed incels (believing wrongly that they're incels) or noncels who lie that they're incels. For more: Different incels' categories.

2019

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 16, 2022, 01:20:49 AM »

I'll read it these days (I plan so.) and maybe will comment some of its parts. Thank you for sharing this!

2020

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Mentalcel (or braincel)

« on: December 16, 2022, 01:10:59 AM »

mentalcel (pl. mentalcels); braincel (pl. braincels) -- incels with psychological, psychopathological or psychiatric problems. For more: Different incels' categories.

2021

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Currycel

« on: December 16, 2022, 12:01:17 AM »

currycel (pl. currycels) -- Indian (and other South Asian) incels (because of the popularity of curry, a dish or a sauce, with South Asian origin). For more: Different incels' categories.

2022

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 15, 2022, 07:14:28 PM »

She said I was 'cute', but not 'sexy'.

 You see? A rare honest and frank girl. If you was a muscle guy (in Chinese -- 肌肉男), she will say that you're at least a bit sexy. Think what she may say to this man: .
 Even very ugly males, when they're having muscles, may add some sexy-ness to their looks. (Only those girls who like 娘, feminine ones, will not notice a good, muscular, shredded body). As a Chinese man said: "If you want to be attractive, you should be one of these: handsome, rich or with 6 packs ( well-developed abdominal muscles)." 

2023

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 15, 2022, 07:06:51 PM »

"Yeah, but very rare, in light of the Chinese culture."
 
 We haven't exact sociological data to speak in %, but you see everyday (especially in the not so developed areas) Chinese who are doing hard or simple jobs like: construction workers, cleaners, KTV girls and so on. All of them (or the majority) are born in families where the parents doesn't want (or couldn't) press them to be what the successful guys like you are now. 我的意思是在中国这么多工人，保洁，”小姐“，等，人不少。他们都是父母不给了压力的孩子们。没有你那么多成功的，有教育的人。所以我的意思是，中国的人口，大多数，没有这么多”老虎“父母的人们。比如，1个教授：5老师：10个工人：100个保洁：1000小姐。。。。。。 Maybe most of the parents in Shanghai or in Beijing are what you said, but these aren't the majority of Chinese society. All around the world the nerdy schoolboys and schoolgirls with strict parents are a minority. (The majority of the society is full of not well educated and semi-educated people. Maybe there are only 5-10 countries with mainly educated population, but usually the well-educated and intelligent ones are not more than 20% of the whole population).
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 Well, good luck with 马嘉玲. I also have a favorite one, named 龙君红, but we even can't chat because her parents are sort of xenophobic and maybe they think that I am just one of the "foreign trash", despite of my efforts to be a great man: no smoking, no hard alcohol, graduated in Philosophy, Master's degree, also got TEFL, yoga certificate, step aerobics certificate and self-defense certificate, speaking 5 foreign languages, doing sports everyday, learning a lot everyday... once you're labeled like “老外不好” or something else, no matter how hard you're trying you're never welcome. But it's okay, I really hope she's doing well and being happy!

2024

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Good incels, incelologists and incel supporters, help LibGen in this thread!

« on: December 15, 2022, 06:21:42 PM »

I don't care about my sexual appeal tbh.

 Now it's okay and even useful probably because you need to focus not on your inceldom but on your study (I am sure your parents will agree on this 100% with me.  ). But later, for example, when you're 30, 30+, 40, you'll probably start to care and that time you should have everything that you have to have to be an attractive man (this includes the good health and physics because the attractiveness isn't only intellectual, it's also and, often, firstly biological).

I never made myself up well and that is why I never gymmaxxed

Take my advise and start it at least at home (push ups, dumbbells, squats, jumping, sit ups...) because later, when you meet some really attractive girl (who probably will care about the male's body) you'll sorry if you are not fit (gymmaxxed). Also, you know that the sport reduces depression, right?  And it keeps you healthier, which is the primary goal of the existing.

This "women are naturally authorized to select their couples rather than men because their eggs have more values than sperms" isn't exactly true. The reasons are much deeper and more like:

- women have to born child/children (it's painful and heavy).
- have to think how to raise the kids (may be difficult and troublesome if there is no strong, rich and responsible father).
- have to care more about getting pregnant, getting venereal disease (usually they get it easier than the males due to their anatomy and habits) and so on.
- usually they have more choice (the male:female ratio benefits the women in China and other countries).
- usually they're more picky and do not hurry.

selecting men as if we were just some kind of exhibitions in the showcase

 Objectively, isn't it what they should do, if they're wise? For example, if you have a daughter and you love your kid, how you will teach her to select your son-in-law? To pick up some poor, ugly man, or to choose handsome, rich, capable to provide for her and your grandkids? Of course, the care, the morals, too, but usually, the parents also do support these choices: "To have a high salary, to have good home, to drive a car, to be a giver." This is how it is. Nobody wants to deal with losers, everyone is greedy for a better life.
 And, yes, there are more and more greedy women, especially in the megapolises like Shanghai. If you're not rich, you just can't have a wife. Classes... that's it. Marxism explains it well.

Misogyny

 Misogyny (as other hate-oriented attitudes) is useless. It reminds me those useless anti-Jew or anti-Japanese attitudes -- there are guys, who instead to earn RMB 2 or to learn what's "tribalism" ("部落习性"), or to add 30 push-ups to their daily routine exercises, they'll just spend hours of speaking against some group of people like: Jews, Japanese, Turkish, females, gays, feminists, etc. and when they need money, knowledge and good body, they have none.

I just want to be a ffffffffffffffffffff great professor

 That's admirable. (I do value it and I think all of the intellectual oriented males and females will do the same.) You're a precious person because there aren't so many young people like you who wants to be a professor of psychometrics. I am serious -- it's something that all people should value and admire!
 But what about your goal to become a Chad-tier male? Only with edumaxx you can't do it. You need a solid gymmaxx for this.
 You see, even the schoolboys in Norway are big and tall, without gymmaxx you're going to feel mogged a lot:
 When I was your age I also thought that it's enough to be a good man, to learn well and to have a good job in order females to like me. 100% bluepilled attitude. Later I found out that without looks (at least good body) the chances are dramatically less (the redpill knowledge). Then I made more research and I found out the other factors (race, place, economy, capital, etc.) and now, from a metapill point of view, I am saying that the best way is a person to keep the socialist ideal: develop all your sides -- brain, body, status, skills... only knowledge and spiritual isn't enough nowadays.

2025

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Good incels, incelologists and incel supporters, help LibGen in this thread!

« on: December 15, 2022, 05:16:00 PM »

Sorry for not pointing this, but my suggestion to move to poland was for MSL not LibGen
Psychometrics in Poland sucks.

 I admire and do appreciate people who want to help really someone who's in sort of trouble or who needs help! (By the way, for those who don't know well the Polish history, here I'd add that Polish have a good record of helping others in need -- like their contribution against the Ottoman invasions in Europe long time ago and the current sheltering of the Ukrainian refugees.) For example, this Polish king (Władysław III Warneńczyk ) died in Bulgaria only 20 y. o. at that time, trying to push the Ottomans out of the Balkans.
 But, I am since my early childhood a fan of the East Asians and only here I feel in my top shape. I could learn Polish language easily (because it's sort of similar to Bulgarian and to Russian, which I speak well) and, as I said, compared to many other European countries Poland isn't bad. But I will feel cold there (and surely I can't geomaxx there because most of the Polish guys are taller than me  and I will look like a midget-tier or something like a manlet. ), so I'm heading to some warm place like Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines, Malaysia. I like the warm nature and the dark yellow Asian faces and unique clothes: .
 It's exactly like the food -- Poland may be a good, sweet thing like an apple, Norway may be like a cherry and France like a pear, and there are many people who like apples, pears and cherries, but I just prefer tropical fruit like pineapples, bananas and  (South-East Asian countries).