2011

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 15, 2022, 01:43:26 AM »

So according to all of your narrations of posts, you are living in China now on the private tutoring, collecting the trashes, and the online earnings, as a native American?

  After I said

I am from Europe, never been to USA, living in China since 2004.

I am a "native American"?  Focus, my friend! If I was a native English speaker, the 2017 law that forbids/limits the non-native English speakers to teach English in China couldn't affect me! The US citizens in China are still okay and can find jobs easily.
 Also, there is this attitude in China -- many Chinese do hate USA but at the same time do admire the USA.  Something very ambivalent! There are also those Chinese who're treating you well until they think you're from the USA. Once they understand you're not from the US but from a small, poor European country, they're losing interest. 

It sounds terrible that China welcomes the foreigners like this, and I don't even know that.

During the Hu Jintao's period China was very, very friendly and international. Later, China became more xenophobic and now for the foreigners (especially the poor ones and the non-native English speakers) the situation is not easy.

I am feeling sorry for you and since you are a foreginer you should make livings in taiwan hk or other asian countries, instead of China.

I chose China because I am a socialist and I hoped here I can live a real socialistic life (like the one I lived in Bulgaria till 1989) but later I saw that I am wrong -- here the situation becomes more feudal.

 

China is screwing many people up psychiatrically by its alienately horrendous involutions, clearly and unflexibly differentiated social-economic stratums, desperates concerning the prospectives of life, and joblessnesses, etc.. So in all senses China is now a tremendous cesspool and you should seek for better lives by moving to other countries. Again, very sorry for what you are experiencing in China now, ad infinito!

Well, it's still okay for the rich Chinese and the rich foreigners. But, I do agree, that there is regress recently due to the emperorization.

I still don't get why you think China is good, except its safety.

 I like Chinese culture and concretely the Chinese food, Chinese music, Chinese martial arts and I like the looks of the Chinese people (I am not a racist but to me the average yellow woman looks prettier than the average white woman or average black woman)... And as I said, I believe that China will build the socialism with Chinese characteristics but I was wrong.

You shoulda migrated into the Nordic.

There I could be a dish washer or cleaner. These rich, tall, white Europeans (Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland,...) don't feel people like me from South-East Europe are very precious; many of them think of us as poor, "black", second-hand people. In China -- most of the Chinese will see me as a real white man and here I was at least a teacher. Do you understand the different level?
 Also, I don't understand their languages but I do speak Chinese well; I don't like the cold, dark (long nights), depressing (high rate of suicides) north European nature... and I even don't think that most of the people are pretty/handsome there. So, why I have to go to a place where I like nothing and where nobody will like me? 
 Everyone shoud choose wisely where to live and where he/she looks better, being treated better, can find better job and feels better. 北欧就不适合我，对我来说最好的是东亚，东南亚。这边我又高，又人家会喜欢我，又不会有人说我的国籍是差的（当然他们更爱美国人，可是还没有北欧的和西欧的歧视），又（以前）会当外语老师。还有，我原来是社会主义的，中国粉丝的人。所以选了这边，可是最近越来越皇帝化了，封建化了，所以如果到三月份还是老样子的，就要润。

2012

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:57:34 PM »

 I see.
 I wonder (if it's not too private), how does your mother think of you now, after you achieve more in your life? Does she praise you more (or at least stopped to criticize you)? Or she remains the same "never satisfied mother" with non-stop "I want more! It's nothing!"?

2013

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: "Sorry, but I have a boyfriend"

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:53:13 PM »

 Good. It's your choice. I respect it. Everyone is free to choose to date or not, to have kids or not, etc. That's why I also do like the CF (child-free) communities.

2014

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Virtual charity for the good incels from a female

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:51:26 PM »

 Good girls are over there.  But the problem with many of those incels is that they're so doubtful that they're even not going to give it a try. You see that one, for example? He thinks that you'll cheat his money, steal his precious name and address (so-called doxxing) and other horror-movie like scenarios. They just stopped believing in good and in hope.

2015

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Again about the ITs (anti-incels, incelophobes "IncelTears")

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:43:44 PM »

 Right now I told to the Chinese brocel here that he's sort of privileged being in Shanghai (far away from the Russia-Ukraine missiles, no minus temperatures, good private university and so on) and he'll feel much worse if he lives somewhere in East Europe. BUT yes, to be objective, many people in the rest of East Europe (Albania, Moldova, Bulgaria, Romania...) do admit that Poland is one of the best amongst them (at least when it comes to deal with the economy, democracy, army and the social problems).

2016

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Good incels, incelologists and incel supporters, help LibGen in this thread!

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:38:55 PM »

 Depends on where in Europe. For example living in Moldova and living in Germany is not the same. But the prices of plane tickets are cheaper and the rents too.
 My idea is that there SHOULD BE at least 1 second best psychometry country in the world which is better than USA (for example, let's suppose it's Japan or South Korea)... there you can go easier and cheaper. This is what I mean.
 I will give you another example -- because of the recent emperorization of China (lack of collectivism in the Party) and more xenophobic laws and attitudes, I gave up my dream to become a Chinese (to obtain Chinese citizenship or Chinese green card). I spent in China almost 19 years and it was my dream to become a Chinese citizen but I didn't know that after the dear comrade Hu Jintao, the situation will become so difficult here (especially for the poor foreigners like me), so I wanted to move to some another place full of Chinese (hua ren) like Singapore. Singapore is the best, isn't it? But later I found out that there is difficult to find a job and it's expensive for the poor people like me, so now I think of something like "second best" and it will be somewhere in South-East Asia like Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia... this is it. When you can't afford the best, try the second best.

2017

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:23:08 PM »

Depression can go away.
Just look for the things in life that make you happy.

Huhh... yeah I know, but, the things that make me happy are not unachievable and unachieved, and the things that can't make me happy are achieved intrinsically.

 If you wish, share concretely what bothers you so much. Because I see Chinese in much worse conditions (for example the workers and soldiers in Xinjiang or those in Inner Mongolia) who stay there in subzero temperatures, deal with diseases, storms and so on... and still, most of them feel okay and some are even happy. You don't need to suffer in some cold place, don't need to fight with Indian army (like the ones in Tibet recently), don't need to work hard job (like all those in the mines, on the field and the construction workers)... For many people your worries are like "first world problem" (because being in Shanghai and in a private university is already one of the top worldwide).
 You're also much better than the poor foreigners in China (like me) because you have legal rights to work almost any job you want and we, the non-native speakers, after the 2017 law that limited us to be at least English teachers,... we were left almost without any chance to find a legal job (yes, if we're in Taiwan, Macao or Japan, we can work even as cleaners, waiters and so on but in China we can't. No foreign cleaners, no foreign bus drivers, no foreign postmen... ) Now I only survive here because I had a few private students (300 yuan per week), I collect empty bottles and cans on the streets and sell them (4 yuan per week) and I have some minor online earnings (a euro or two per week). Can you imagine what hell of life is it?
 If I can change (exchange) myself, I will prefer to be you, not me, when it comes being in China.

2018

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 14, 2022, 05:09:29 PM »

 

and I am so-called 'garbage' in the world.

 But wait, you can't say so, because you're privileged comparing with all these guys (in Poland and other East European countries) who live poor life, who're dealing with falling missiles on their territory (because they're close to Russia and Ukraine) and who live in fear every day because even on the street they can get beaten by skinheads (光头党), football hooligans (那些喜欢打人的足球粉丝), dog bites (homeless dogs) and so on. You live in secured Shanghai and you're in a private university. Also you're more knowledgeable than most of the other Chinese (好多中国人的英语不好，你的算是特别好。而且大家，大多数，是农民，工人，服务员，司机。没有那么多会你一样懂IT或心理学。)
 If you're "garbage" who is not? The worker who thinks that "Malaysia" is "Bulgaria"? The waitress who thinks that all non-Chinese are rich? The peasant who even don't know that Thailand has no border with China? The cashier who thinks that all foreigners have got AIDS? The fuerdai (second generation rich) who only plays online games and never heard of Lech Walesa, Georgi Dimitrov and even local men like Mo Zi and Peng Dehuai, and who thinks that "planet" and "star" is one and the same?
 Most of the people around the world are very weak in knowledge, information and education. And most of the people live in dangerous areas. You're lucky enough to be what you are. Except adding to (maxxing) your body and curing the psychological problems, you're already okay. If you're only son, you're also guaranteed with apartment, maybe a car, you'll have a high salary job... you're just the ideal for son-in-law for many Chinese mothers and fathers. I know many in Shanghai are too greedy and picky, but not all China (and Asia) is like Shanghai or Shenzhen. Just geomaxx a bit (move to a less greedy place) and you'll be perceived as a very successful young man.

2019

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 14, 2022, 04:46:45 PM »

Btw what a coincidence that many of us are socialists/communists xD

It's because we lived before in socialist countries which became capitalist ones and we may compare the things -- for example, before there were free hospitals, libraries, education and so on -- no matter rich or poor, you never could be left without medical care, education, books, etc. Now the poor people can't have these. So, it's normal people to prefer the socialism (even it had some disadvantages).
 At the same time, people like this Chinese fellow, who experienced the system here which is more feudal than socialist or communist (for example, politically it's just one-man ruling, something like the emperors ago; the hospitals and the universities aren't free; the rich people have much more choices and better treatment in the society than the poor ones) can't see a reason to be socialist/communist (because they never lived in a real socialist society). I don't mean that the socialist Poland or socialist Bulgaria were the 100% ideal of socialism, there were some flaws too (like limitations for people to travel abroad, restricted free speech and some others) but at least there were those many free services (and cheap, affordable goods) that made most of the people feeling okay and with dignity.
 And, at the end, even at that time, there are those people who when they live in the capitalism they'll think that the socialism is better and the opposite.
 About the inceldom: in a real socialist society, it's easier to deal with the inceldom and I will explain why:
 When you're not worrying about money (because the hospitals, the education and the libraries are free + the goods are mostly cheap), then you usually can't be a greedy person and you'll focus more on art, culture, science, etc. In this kind of society the females are also going to be more educated, high-leveled and oriented to search males with brain, feelings, morals (not only males with money and looks).
 In the capitalism, especially the one that makes big gaps between poor and rich, and allows anarchy, crimes, etc. the females are growing more wild -- they value more animalistic qualities like strong body man, man full of resources and so on, and usually you can't impress such a woman with poetry, knowledge, romantic feelings and so on. Thus in the capitalism only the very rich, very powerful and very handsome males are secured with Stacy-level females, the rest -- if they can have a Becky are feeling lucky.

2020

Other languages / Re: Най-после се поосъзнаха?

« on: December 14, 2022, 02:11:38 AM »

Най-после започнаха да се допускат мненията, че КОВИД (в омикроновия си сегашен вариант) не е чак толкова опасен; да се разхлабват мерките (поне официално; на места не винаги промените идват толкова бързо; например около мен все още не можеш да влизаш в публичен транспорт без нацистоидните кодове - само зелен код (ако имаш жълт код, например, който може да ти се даде по различни причини - не може! За червен - да не става дума!)), да се забраняват предишните малоумни блокажи, предизвикали толкова много смърт (заради ненавременно и/или невъзможно вършене на работата на медици и пожарникари; поради самоубийства; поради други свързани по-пряко или по-косвено причини).
 Горд съм, че дори когато беше най-опасно да се критикува, написах на много хора, на 3 езика, както и официални статии тук, че открито протестирам срещу тази "0 КОВИД" ПОЛИТИКА НА НЕВЪЗМОЖНОТО превръщайки се в дисидент (макар и ляв, защото не искам капитализмът да е върхът на човешката еволюция и предпочитам по-социалните, по-социалистическите общества, където няма мизерстващи и подтиснати и, където дори хора без капиталистически умения или наследени пари, или щастливо спечелили лотерии и големи наследства, могат да си позволят здравеопазване, образование, спорт и култура.)
 Оставам си на позицията, че при днешната политическа ситуация, Китай заприличва повече на империя с император от ултранационалистически тип, а не на народна република от социалистически тип, какъвто е официалният наратив (парадигма), затова и се отказвах от детската си мечта да имам китайско гражданство или китайска зелена карта (въпреки че сега имам право да кандидатствам за такава).

 Искам да добавя нещо, което е офтопик (не съвсем по темата) - един човек, който си беше направил труд да посети и прочете тук даде съвети за този форум: да се сложело "https", че сега е само с "http" (хубаво, ама хостингът иска пари за тази услуга допълнително, а ние не можем да изкараме толкова; особено сега в Китай, където чужденците са все повече ограничени за намиране на работа легално. Тук даже метач или келнер не можеш да бъдеш, защото не издават такива визи. Чужденците с работа в Китай са единични изключения, на фона на всички, които искат да работят, но не могат, тук.), да се промени URL-то, че така изглеждало като някакво с лош код ("SEO" значи "science-education-omnilogy = наука-образование-всичкология", forum е ясно, а "luntan" е латинизираната китайска дума "论坛", което също значи "форум". Не знам защо буди някакви страшни асоциации, но хората са си напатили онлайн и офлайн и не е чудно.
 Отделно, над едно десетилетие брандиране, линкове, споделяне с това URL и изведнъж да го махнеш/редиректнеш... не мисля, че е добра идея, а и също ще става дума за добаяне на пари, а от китайската партнираща страна няма да има съгласие, защото не е  от богатите китайци.)

 Понеже съм обективен, отбелязвам, че и при нас (в южнокитайски град, където съм през последните години) вече премахнаха всякакви кодове, проверки, тестове. Единственото задължително са маските (лошо няма; винаги съм бил "промаскър" и не разбирам как може човек да е "антимаскър"). Дори имаме 2 седмици безплатен транспорт (поне мъничка компенсация за причинените неудобства с велосипедите под наем, които ползвах често заради нежеланието си да участвам в лудостта наречена "0 КОВИД" и да се тествам на всеки 3 дена!)
 Така или иначе, много е разочароващо всичко това (императоризацията и ксенофобизацията, имам предвид), та не мисля, че трябва да продължавам в Китай.

2021

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 14, 2022, 01:57:41 AM »

 He really looks better than 50% of the Chinese males in China (according to my nearly 19 years long experience in China). I don't think he's having some looks problems (the only thing that he may add is some gym activity, the so-called gym-maxx and he'll be a Chang-tier). Also, being a student in a top private university is showing a relatively higher status. And he's more educated than many of the people around. And he has high goals... so, except some sort of mentalcel inceldom (can't find a girlfriend because too shy or because of other psychological problems mentioned above) there is no problem for him.

2022

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Good incels, incelologists and incel supporters, help LibGen in this thread!

« on: December 14, 2022, 01:48:46 AM »

兄弟，你开玩笑吧？我也住在中国。这边那么多胖子们，老叔叔们，娘的男孩子们--都比你更丑，可是都会有女友。你那么好看的年轻人，怎么会想要自杀，什么的？！你一点都没有外貌的问题啊！如果你是个正常的，没有精神病的人，你肯定会有女朋友啊!

而且，为什么选择了美国？那边没有你想的那么完美。选择个更安全的国家。

你问怎么变个超级帅哥。你已经够帅，可是你可以开始做健身，锻炼多武术或MMA那类的运动，吃健康的（水果，蔬菜），不要吸烟，不要喝白酒。这样慢慢你越来越好看。不要放弃。

谢了。我知道美国不安全，但是心理测量学在美国最发达，这个很难解释，总之美国确实是教这个教的最好地方，其他地方都太水。这门课因为本来就很冷门，全世界都没几个教授研究这个的，但是我很感兴趣。我现在只恨的是自己英语不够好，还有就是我怕到时候没钱去那边留学。
我家是住在上海但是那边留学钱真的很贵。

 明白了。So, let's continue in English (because most of the people here don't understand Chinese and because my English is better.    Plus, you should practice your English well.  )
 In this case, if your money isn't enough for the best (as you said this major is the best developed in the USA), then you should think of the second best. I suppose Japan or some European country also developed well this major. There is cheaper to study and to live, so you can try them. (It's not necessary to graduate in the best university in order to be the best professor. If you love the major and you learn well offline and online, you will become one of the best too). Don't be too strict to yourself like some "tiger mom" （老虎妈妈）because it's counter-productive. Just do the best with what you have.

2023

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: 'Individual Value' assessment? How would you rate it if you would like to?

« on: December 14, 2022, 01:35:27 AM »

 I am from Europe, never been to USA, living in China since 2004. I am a socialist/communist and thus I am pro-Communist and pro-Socialist parties (all of them, as far as they are real, not fake) but, of course, when there is something like emperorisation (emperorization) (in Chinese, I suppose it will be "皇帝化") than I also can't continue to be pro-something which already isn't what it was meant to be.
 That's why from a hard-liner communist and socialist I became something like dissident (but still with communist and socialist orientation) writing this protest during the madness called "0 COVID": "Zero COVID" -- policy of the impossible against which I protest.
 
 The reason I dream of socialist/communist society is that there people can't be poor and loveless. Everyone, even the poor ones will have at least some food, some female... all the needs will be satisfied and at the same time people will be cultured, not selfish and cooperative.
 This is the ideal and it's normal to be like this, because "There is enough for everybody's need but not for anybody's greed."
 Well, if it's not possible, then, at least let people to have a NORMAL capitalism where at least the hard-working and the creative ones will do better and will provide some working places for the rest.
  Okay, enough politology. 
Let's see the real inceldom problems here...
 Most of the girls do not think too much about your character, values, etc., if you're handsome and rich. This is the truth -- house, car, high income (房子，车，工资高) + handsome, tall （帅，高）... these are usually the values of the most females in China (and also abroad -- they don't value so much poor, ugly, short men). Most of the people (including the female people) around the world aren't educated or smart. So, only a minority will think of your internal world (like values, political, art, philosophical and other points of view).
 If you're handsome and rich, usually you're not an incel. But if you're not:

 then you should improve yourself (maxxing).

 Be a better version of yourself: for example, now you're not strong enough, so you can start doing more sports. Your English is not perfect, so you can add more words per day (if you learn 2 new words everyday successfully, you can try to learn 3.) In this way, you'll be more attractive.
 But, you should remember, according to what I read online (as I said I am from Europe and lived only in China recently), the Asian women in the USA usually do prefer the Caucasian males (many Asian males living in the US complain that the Asian females don't like them often), so for you the chance to ascend in the US will be less than the chance you have in China (I am not saying here is easy but what I read is that the Asians and even the hapas (half-Asian) males there are very frustrated). That psycho -- Elliot Roger (the mass killer) also was a hapa (White father, Chinese Malaysian mother) and even rich he couldn't find a girl (but he didn't gymmaxx; I think if he added some good amount of muscle mass maybe there will be at least one girl for him).
Yes, you're smart because most of the people don't go to private universities, don't understand programming and psychometrics (they even don't know what's this "psychometrics"; probably they think it's something like "psychokinesis"  ) and their English level isn't that high as yours.

2024

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Good incels, incelologists and incel supporters, help LibGen in this thread!

« on: December 13, 2022, 02:56:08 AM »

 Above I posted in Chinese and here I will translate my post in English. What I told him is: "Brother, are you kidding? I also live in China. There are so many fat people, old uncles, and feminine boys here -- they are uglier than you, but they all have girlfriends. How can a good-looking young man like you want to commit suicide?! You have no appearance problem at all! If you are a normal person without mental illness, you must have a girlfriend!


And why the United States? It's not as perfect as you think. Choose a safer country.


You asked how to become a super handsome guy (a.k.a Chang). You are handsome enough, but you can start to gymmax and to do exercises such as Chinese martial arts or MMA, eat healthy (fruit and vegetables), do not smoke, and do not drink strong alcoholic drinks like baijiu. You will look better and better gradually. Don't give up."

2025

A forum for incels who are normal people (no terrorists, no rapists, no racists, no pedophiles, no haters and so on) / Re: Good incels, incelologists and incel supporters, help LibGen in this thread!

« on: December 13, 2022, 02:51:23 AM »

兄弟，你开玩笑吧？我也住在中国。这边那么多胖子们，老叔叔们，娘的男孩子们--都比你更丑，可是都会有女友。你那么好看的年轻人，怎么会想要自杀，什么的？！你一点都没有外貌的问题啊！如果你是个正常的，没有精神病的人，你肯定会有女朋友啊!

而且，为什么选择了美国？那边没有你想的那么完美。选择个更安全的国家。

你问怎么变个超级帅哥。你已经够帅，可是你可以开始做健身，锻炼多武术或MMA那类的运动，吃健康的（水果，蔬菜），不要吸烟，不要喝白酒。这样慢慢你越来越好看。不要放弃。